Behind The Neck Press = 3D Delts!

The Old School NATTY way of building Death Star Delts. Here's the truth about behind the neck pressing...
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Disclaimer: Alex Leonidas is not a doctor or a medical professional. Always consult a physician before starting any exercise program. Use of this information is strictly at your own risk. Alex Leonidas will not assume any liability for direct or indirect losses or damages that may result from the use of information contained in this video including but not limited to economic loss, injury, illness or passing.

#shoulders #shoulderworkout #oldschool

[ERehab]

Honored to be mentioned! Let the gains commence!

[vonclarktheshark]

When gym influencers tell me not to do an exercise that bodybuilders before the internet used to spam, it makes me want to do it even more.

[joshywashy]

I’m surprised no one else noticed the thumbnail where Athleanx is staring into the background. Glad to see you embracing and promoting this lift, Alex. I dropped my ego way down and decided to start from the empty ez curl bar to ensure I can go fairly deep without worrying about tissue capacity, but again the gym should be humbling if you wanna make genuine progress.

[zapfreeman]

Alex is lifting so much the bar is bending

[mertonhirsch]

I did 190 behind the neck and 165 x 5 x 5, but dropped it because it was supposed to cause impingement. My posture degraded when I dropped it. It had actually been preventing impingement.

[Berti_Beefcake]

I'm literally in school to become a physical therapist right now and I've went to some of the teachers to talk to them about this.
Lo and behold I've had one of em(a relatively younger one) advice me against BTN presses and if I were to do them, I should do em with lower weight and/or preferably dumbbells(which is decent advice). Let's just say she was only a teacher there for 2 months and now is no longer there.

On the other end I've had a much older and more experienced teacher(and not even a physiotherapist, but a movement expert) ask me "Why shouldn't you do it?", he said that there's nothing wrong with it and if your shoulders feel fine, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Tomorrow I will ask another one of my teachers just to see what he says. It's honestly a good way to check if their knowledge is up to date.

I've been doing them again and again over the years and there is no other compound movement that gives me better side delt pumps.
I've had more issues with my shoulder from lateral raises than BTN presses

EDIT: I actually have an assignment right now to prepare a presentation about shoulder impingement, the timing of your video is unbelievable 😂

[banditkade]

Two years ago, I suffered a shoulder impingement doing a close-grip bench press, so now I'm SUPER-conscious about how my shoulder is rotated, and I go out of my way to stretch my rotator cuffs before every upper body workout. This exercise did the opposite of impingement; it OPENED my rotator cuffs and was a PERFECT exercise to do before my bench press, and best of all, it's a PRESSING exercise for your side-and-rear delts, which are usually acclimated to pulling motions. Definitely replacing my standard barbell press moving forward with this one.

[Wayfrer]

Ironically, I partially tore my RC doing face pulls (with bad form) and one of the movements that helped me rehab it was Klokov presses.

[JoelP]

I started doing pbn two years ago after not doing them for over 20 years. I had stopped because all the experts warned us about shoulder impingement. They had always been a great exercise for me, . I started back with an empty bar and micro loaded over time eventually got 185x2 seated. I do 135-155 for 6-10 reps regularly now and these are my primary pressing exercise. Oh yeah, I’m 63 years old.
Thank you so much for posting this!👊💯

[richardliuzzo]

Mike O'Hearn has been preaching this for years! Regardless of whether or not he's been a lifetime natty, Mike knows his shit and is strong and jacked AF even in his 50s. That sort of longevity can't be ignored. Alex, I'd love to see you two do some videos together. Literally been waiting years to see you two discuss strength and fitness together and it hasn't happened yet. Please do the community a favor and do some collabs! Mike is a living legend. 🙏

[destrohades]

Upright rows and BTN presses had some of the worst negative PR in exercise science. Both absolutely GOATED movements for building the shoulders - if in doubt just widen your grip (within reason)

[hillsman]

Since I implimented the BTN press, it feels like there is a band pulling my upper back and shoulders into perfect posture when I'm standing. Also its the first time I've fully felt my side delts as a prime mover during a vertical press. Truly a life changing exercise.

[ogmorganfreeman]

As a physical therapist that also competes in weightlifting i have to consistantly explain why upright rows and behind the neck presses are not inherently dangerous, as long as you are used to the range of motion. It's like anything else, the body adapts to stress with smart progressive overload.

[joalvarado]

I’ve always done behind the neck variations for weightlifting purposes. Shoulder impingement isn’t common in weightlifters, who are arguably the most mobile strength athletes on the planet.

[dnlgdvv]

I dropped it 10 years ago due to the experts knowing better. At the time, i was BTN pressing 185lbs. Im adding them back in after seeing this video. I have been wrestling with adding them in for months. Let the gains begin.

[alvinotafoya]

At the age of 55, i still rotate the behind the neck press, im actually running it now. Shoulders are still fine. I feel it in also in the side delts. We did these in the 80's, when it was called, the weight room, not the gym lol.

[leinekenugelvondoofenfocke]

I do it with dumbbells because I can get more range of motion at the bottom, and the top. I get full downward rotation of the scapula, as well as full upward rotation. It's kinda like what happens with a Lu raise, but with more load. It also really hits the medial head of my triceps.
It absolutely helps my shoulders stay healthy. If your shoulders only ever get enough stress to damage them, but not enough stress to provoke an adaptation that renders that stress inert, then you are just degenerating.
I absolutely believe in strengthening weak positions.
Enkiri Elite Fitness just made a video on OHP variations saying the same thing about the BTN, and that video is underveiwed to the point it's almost criminal.
He's a natty, long armed, and lean presser than never specializes, but still moves his OHP up over time. So when he says to do the BTN, anybody who knows anything should listen.
Y'all should probably do a Collab, and chop it up about overhead lifts. He's keeping it real just like you, and it's a damn shame he doesn't get very much love on YouTube.

[G.Sebastian]

I also never did the BTN Press because of the mentioned influencer. And this week I was just looking for another shoulder press variation, when your video popped up yesterday. Blended pretty good in my plan for the upcoming workout, so I gave it a try. Went from 70kg for 3 sets of 6 reps for a standard OHP to 45kg for 4 sets of 6 reps (after a relatively long warm-up with small weight jumps). And it felt amazing! No shoulder or elbow pain (it even felt better!), felt more stable (no leaning back) and got a nice pump. For the first time trying this exercise I am pretty satisfied.
I regret not giving it a chance before, just because of all the fear and misinformation going around

[RMBLRX]

You clued me into reverse grip bench months back when I desperately needed it to allow my shoulder to mend. It's since mended, and it's only a couple weeks back I brought BTN pressing into rotation because of it. You've got some crazy good timing somehow. Thanks, and keep it up!

[mastersironmantarmstrong]

Thanks Alex a few months back I heard you defending behind the neck pressing and it just clicked with me and I knew deep inside what you were saying was true.

I decided then I was going to implement it into my training and now I have been doing it for about 6 weeks and my almost 57 year age shoulders are feeling the better for it.

Being a competitive powerlifter back in the 80s I used the exact same process you described in this video to begin my barbell benching and overhead pressing again in my 50s.

For some reason I never directly trained my shoulders during my powerlifting days and of course they always hurt when I started trying to train again in my 50s.

When I started barbell benching I waded through all the fear mongering on wide benching and decided to do it anyway since I believed it gave the most pec activation.

I just started with the barbell for 3 sets of 10 after my dumbbell pressing and added 5 lbs per week until I worked back up.

I am in total agreement with you and sold on the idea that we need to work on those exercises which are supposedly dangerous with very light weight practicing the mobility and allowing ourselves to adapt to the range of motion and strengthen those areas.