Why the Story of Christ is Insane | John Vervaeke, Jonathan Pageau

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[lifestylemedicinals]

I always make this point with atheists and people of other faith:
The idea that God would send his only begotten Son to die for sins, resurrect, ascend to heaven and return to judge everyone and create a new world.. is absolutely insane.
You can't just randomly drop the most insane thing ever on people and expect them to just accept it as truth, let alone be so confident in it that they're willing to be tortured and die.
The people who propagated the gospel must have seen something extremely compelling to get the ball even rolling for an idea like that.
Not to mention, to what nefarious end could one possibly have by creating a religion that guides people into unconditional forgiveness, love, taking care of widows and orphans, growing in knowledge, wisdom, patience, long suffering, etc.. you think that's a good tool to "control" people?
More like liberate them and equip them to be next level and only submit to God.
The government controls people by feeding their flesh and making them degenerates, not by helping them grow spiritually.

[psalmforliberty]

For from him and through him and to him are all things.
To him be glory forever. Amen.
Romans 11:36

[JackDSquat]

The Trinitarian God also is the combination of what I consider to be the three main “types” of gods. The Father is kinda like the “One/singularity” talked about in Platonism or the “system of heaven” found in Confucianism, the Son is like the god-man found throughout all sorts of pagan religions, and the Holy Spirit is like the “dao” found in Chinese mysticism or spirits found in animism. All of these aspects of deities are perfectly fulfilled and brought together by the Christian God

[TheDI]

He’s the condensation of the gods because he is the source of the gods. He is the God of gods

[Jim-Mc]

Pageau gets the point here better than most ordained teachers in Christianity. This is why Jesus was a big deal to the ancient world.

[lizbec]

Yep! Jesus is that awesome and mysterious and when you give your life to him, you feel the greatest peace. It's like a miracle!

[encouragingthesaints]

"The MOST High God", "Lord of Lords"

[kornelszecsi]

As a Catholic Neoplatonist I believe the same, Jesus Christ is the Ultimate Image of the One or the Father and is one with him. The henads are emanations from the Nous and and the Nous is the Divine Itellect or the Logos, so all the henads are different imitations of the divine Son they are the highest creatures, the angels can be equated with them.

[scoon]

Condensation of the gods? Love that wording.

[andrewnakhla]

Reminds me of that dream Jordan Peterson had where all the kings of the world bowed down to Jesus Christ!

[lollipop]

Yes, the gospels and the Bible itself are filled with crazy impossible miracles, and the story might even sound too wonderful to be true. BUT it is true, and Jesus is real and Jesus is awesome, and the biblical account as a whole is filled with such miracles because we serve a great and almighty God Who is capable of things far and above what we can imagine, and He can perform great miracles. He is all-powerful and all-knowing yet He loves you and me, and He showed us this by giving His Son Jesus as the only sacrifice, and because He raised Jesus from the dead, we can have eternal life with God forever.

[antonioperez]

He is the image of the invisible God. He is the exact representation of His being.

[rubbersole]

I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: “I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept His claim to be God.”

That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic—on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg—or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.

- Mere Christianity

[c.k.]

JESUS is NOT a copy of anyone....
He is the original of EVERYONE.
He ALWAYS was The TRUTH... The way... The LIFE 🙏🏻✝️

[maxsterling]

Just like the story is all these stories jammed into one, so is Gods love for every life present in each one life. The everlasting life is your love in God and his love in you. The salvation you receive is the sanctity of the example of Gods love in the life of Jesus. We have the love or the power of God in our life all the time. When we have the love the power and our spirit through salvation IN THIS LIFE we are baptized in the Holy Spirit. What God and ourself does together is more than we can imagine what we have done often in the public square is defined or contemplated what can be done when we think we are separate. God loves you, be loved.

[crushinnihilism]

Odin is a wander, a father, a warrior, a hunter, a theif, a raiser of the dead, a seducer, a lover, and a seeker of wisdom.

[ChiquitaSpeaks]

I was just thinking about this earlier this week they say that the old stories are proof that Jesus was not real but l look at it more as part, included with the writings of the Old Testament, of his prophecy as it was told he came to fulfill it’s literally all of those stories condensing onto the real life manifestation of one man bringing more significance to his sacrifice

[nigromontanus]

What about Krishna? He is also a shepherd, warrior, sage, lover etc?

[gmclark]

The next session will be in CA. Stay on the look out to be a part of the discussion.

[scorpioeyes]

The only one that judges is yourself. God is not here to judge us but to show us unconditional love.