Stirner // Rand // Nietzsche: EGOISM | Philosophy & Psychology

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In this video I outline Max Stirner Ayn Rand & Friedrich Nietzsche's view on egoism, psychological egoism, ethical egoism and their rejection of altruism.

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References:

Nietzsche's book: Twilight of the Idols
Stirner's book: The Ego & His Own

[thetruth]

Being selfish is actually very healthy psycologically speaking, as someone that is fighting against my habit of people pleasing, what i can say from personal experience is that although i might make others happy, i always end up miserable and depressed if i people please to much. People should be better at getting what they need or atleast trying to, rather then cave to the demands of others.

Selfishness is also a necessary component for freedom, regardless of it`s in a material way or a spiritual way, regardless of the wealth someone aspires to in either of these cases it`s dependant upon the outcome the individual is willing to work towards.

[pseudomastix]

Stirner actually accounts for altruism, it's the mutual benifical action between two subjects. E.g. buying a present for a friend sates my desire to see them happy and sates their desire to have a present.

The Union of Egoists is founded on this Mutual accociation.

[adamisforgiants]

I think we should contrast Nietzsche and Stirner more. Stirner seems to have a project of radical self-acceptance and doesn't give a damn about the species. Nietzsche seems to be against self-acceptance, with the exception of those people who can advance a certain hegemonic project (the species). What is interesting is that Stirner critiques humanism for its tyranny over individual men. Nietzsche thinks the opposite and believes that humanity itself should be held to an external standard, and thus always be improving. From the perspective of Stirner, Nietzsche's philosophy is doubly spooked, evaluating the egoist in terms of humanity, and evaluating humanity in terms of some need to continuously suffer for the sake of advancement.

[jacobfederici]

I voted for the frankl/camus but I was very excited for this as well :)

[RastaLlama]

I think this is such an important concept to grasp regardless of your beliefs. The more u can acknowledge ur self interests and ur egoism the more u can strive to put others first. It doesn’t invalidate the good deeds one does if it is something that is inherent to the human condition- it further allows us to understand why people do the things they do.

[ThoughtsonThinking]

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[nagelsleu]

Thank you for introducing me to Rand and Stirner!

[deismaccountant]

So to me, Nietzsche’s critical take connecting Physics, Psychology and philosophy, , while not totally eradicating free will as many tie it to the randomness of the universe, Definitely stresses for me that a real philosophical and comprehensive ethics takes not only connecting all fields of study in a theory of everything, but also dispersing power in all forms so that we can truly observe each other in development, as even Stirner seemed to imply that Even if nobody controls each other explicitly, we all subjectively define ourselves in relation to each other. This is why I would be super interested in you exploring three key relations if you ever get around to it: Stirner to Proudhon, Proudhon to Nietzsche, and Nietzsche to David Bohm, who coined the concept of Implicate Order that Nietzsche himself seems to imply here. Emanationism could also be seen As the key term here, as Proudhon believed that order emanated from freedom, and not the other way around, which makes sense when that freedom is how we acclimate to our environment, regardless of any obstruction, either because of or in spite of determinism.

[justinlanan]

Exposure to Stirner was, for me, the beginning of my spiritual path. He strikes a chord and he strikes it hard, resonating one out of any fixed moral construct.

One is of course, then left to pick up the pieces of what they once were and journey into the nihilistic void, ready to construct an entirely new sense of being. This is where Zarathustra, buddhism, and critical theory come along to carry one forward.

All this is under the unspoken, unescapable umbrella of a pure, preverbal Anarchism. An anarchy which faces the radical contingency of all forms of valuation as dependent on the circumstances which birthed them. Forcing one to acknowledge who and what they are, if they are to continue living (evaluating) at all.

DO A VIDEO ON FRANTZ FANON THAT SHIT WOULD BE THE DOPEST.

[johngoldsworthy]

Can't wait to dig into this. Best original, philosophical analysis on Youtube, kudos

[snippets]

Hey it's one of the top 5 best video summaries about Ayn Rand and Nietzsche and power Vs selfishness

[andrewgirvan]

This was a nice introduction to Stirner for me. Thanks!

[birdvatcher]

great video! you painted what their different views were like very effectively. new sub

[TheSpyder]

this is an incredibly well done video! nietzsche's stirnerist inspirations are something still highly conspired around, but this puts into perspective that whether he was inspired or not by him and his works, its still worth comparing the two for their surprising similarities and interesting differences

rand, on the other hand, when compared to these two, becomes just what rand is: kind of embarrassing.

[lubruz]

Super interesting topic. There is a video in youtube called "What is the difference between Objectivism and Nietzsche´s philosophy?" where Rand herself give a very good explanation about this.

[wormalism]

A mother who gives her child everything he asks for to the point of making her child permanently dependent then she obviously is addicted to the feeling of being needed and is not being altruistic at all, but otherwise, I don't really care what motivates a person to be altruistic. A mother who sacrifices herself, saving her children from a burning building is a hero. Sometimes it's appropriate to put others before yourself, but you should try to respect yourself.

[dougpridgen]

Objectivism doesn't advocate obedience to a code of values. It states that if you choose life rather than death then, since knowledge is something we have to work for rather than something we have automatically or by default, then you should live according to your nature as a rational being, since reason is your only means of gaining knowledge and your only guide to action if you are to avoid acting blindly, impulsively, and ultimately self destructively. It's a matter of not contradicting your nature and acting on your own independent rational judgment, not obedience.

[יהבינאי]

When you will talk about stirners metaphysics, its the most radical thing I ever read

[nickwilsonxc]

Which of Nietzsche’s books is the 16:44 quote from? What a dangerous quote if that were to be taken literally to justify an atrocity like slavery or genocide. Kinda makes me wonder about Hitler’s reported admiration for Nietzsche.

[Autonomous_Drone]

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