Is Pokemon Crystal's post game actually good?

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I need a new microphone. Anyway, it's time to finally cover Pokemon Crystal's post game! Is is good? I'm not sure.

#Pokemon #PokemonCrystal

Music Used:
"Panselo" from Phoenotopia Awakening
"Athletic Theme" from Super Mario World
"It's Showtime!" from UNDERTALE
"Littleroot Town" from Pokemon Emerald

...and the rest comes from Pokemon Crystal
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Knowing that golbat only evolves through friendship your rival's finally evolving once he starts treating them better is a great bit of story telling.

Zthewise
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Finding out there was a post game being a 10 year old playing this at the time and not knowing was and still is the best thing I've ever felt as a gamer

gowiththeflowbee
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Gen 2 Post-game in a nutshell:

- SS Aqua. Can be grinded twice a week
-Exploring original routes
-Run into the first new gym and panic
-Go back and grind in the Elite Four a few times
-Come back and finish the original stuff
-Fight Blue and panic
-Go back and grind the Elite Four some more
-Beat Blue
-Discover and fight Red
-Realize you're drastically underleveled
-PANIC
-Grind the Elite four another 50 times
-Beat Red

ElladanKenet
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To truly understand the postgame’s impact, you had to either have been alive at the time, or understand Pokémon’s explosion as a cultural phenomenon during a time where internet access wasn’t within reach for most kids as the context.

My older sister and I started the series on Gen 1 as kids (iirc 5th and 3rd grade respectively). When the franchise dropped with the anime, It. Was. EVERYWHERE. By the time Gen 2 dropped, we as kids were so doped up on Gen 1 (Kanto and such), that getting to relive Kanto through GSC's considerable improvements was already major on it’s own.. but also getting to experience it in a post-champion Red era was unfathomable.
The game being massive had its effects too. Despite printed strategy guides being essential to knowing everything there was to know about the game, new myths, legends, and creepypastas were constantly birthed out of rumors circulating during recess or lunch breaks.

So as a simple epilogue to RBY, as many stated, it’s aiight.
As an epilogue to an entire era however, it was pretty epic.

estabravo
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To be one of us who thought it was incredible, you really did have to be there. Imagine: you’re 9 years old in 2000 and you get what will be effectively the one gameboy game you get for months, and as you near the end of it, you’re kinda bummed. It’s not like there were very many immersive, deep experiences like this one out there, especially not on the console you could take everywhere, so you recognize that you’re probably nearing the end of true, portable, in-depth fun for the foreseeable future. I really struggled playing games that I felt I had already “finished” afterwards.

And then you learn that there’s basically a whole entire game added on to the one you just finished, and especially if you were like me and hadn’t played red/yellow yet, it was unbelievable. It meant another few weeks of drives/flights/whatever had entertainment solved again.

theeyeplaylists
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I always felt like a boss in the kanto region, steamrolling over all the trainers and eventually underestimating and losing to Blue.

TheEuropeanFox
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You can easily go from Johto ko Kanto without the magnet train. Just fly off to Mt Silver (Accessible from the Johto map), walk a few steps to the right and boom, when you try to fly again, you're shown the Kanto map. It's much faster than the magnet train.

sampanna
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I personally wish HGSS had the Espeon- it fits Blue and Red having their own gift Eevees.

amesstarline
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This is kind of the Doki-Doki fact about Crystal at this point, but the team was having trouble making all of Johto fit onto the 8kb or whatever GB cart. It was such a problem that the brought it to their boss and not-yet CEO of Nintendo Saturo Iwata, who took a couple weeks off managing and wrote a map compression software that saved so much space there was suddenly a lot of empty room on the cart, which gave the team the idea to put Kanto in. It had to be abridged somewhat to fit in there, but still - badass moment from one of the GOATs of early gaming

One of the things I miss most about Mr. Iwata was that he was one of the last CEOs in gaming with a programming background

EDIT: TURNS OUT THAT'S NOT WHY HE MADE THE COMPRESSION DEALIE

So, all the stuff about being a bad-ass programmer is true, he reprogrammed the battle system, helped with compression software, etc - WHILE HE WAS CEO (of GameFreak specifically, I believe). But the compression software wasn't to further compress the data - room wasn't actually a major issue on G/S carts, which were twice the size of American R/B carts. It was to SPEED UP the DEcompression, so battle sprites would load faster.

Still awesomeness from Mr. Iwata, but not the reason for additional truncated Kanto, as is often repeated throughout the internet.

pantslesswrock
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3:00 funfact, if you restore the power plant generator before visiting this gym, the barrier will be back up

SiniAnimations
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Not that it matters, but you get the ticket to the magnet train from the mimic girl. Her house was removed when they build the magnet train and she got the ticket as a compensation and she will give it to you if you bring her her poke doll which you can find at the poke fan club in Olivine City. It's almost like a quest or something.

uselessDM
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I always thought of Kanto as being a kind of victory lap. It's also an opportunity to start a new team entirely.

gamingguruk
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Gen 2 is a good game. But it has a horrendous level curve and lack of access to fossil Pokemon, legendary birds, Mewtwo and Mew. And most pokemon from Johto are late game

yaboidragonitehere
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I remember being told at school that after you beat the elite 4 in Gold/Silver you can got to Kanto and beat the gym leaders there. I didn't believe it. Id been burned before. But it was true and they are still in my opinion the best Pokemon games of the series because of this.

nick
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I love how he fought a wild Snorlax, lost a pokémon and THEN used the MasterBall 😂

Fizius
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I'm convinced that Red was given Espeon on his team as a weaker alternative to Mewtwo, which he caught at the end of RBY. Same typing, similar stat distribution, similar movesets between Red's Espeon and Mewtwo when encountered in RBY, and Espeon being Red's lowest levelled Pokemon would make more sense if it was Mewtwo as it would've been Red's most recent catch and his naturally strongest Pokemon.

RobbieRobertson
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It seems so novel now, but hearing from the friend who got there before you that after you beat the Johto league you got to explore all of Kanto seemed like a "dude trust me" moment. So many things about this game were so much better as word of mouth before everyone had such widespread access to the internet, like which trainers gave you their phone numbers, how to get the magnet train running, how to get 1st place in the bug catching contest, every friend circle had different bits of knowledge.

Multifridgeman
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I'm 37 now but I still remember the mew event we had in la. Great stuff

Chronz
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18:56 "I think with Gen 1 there was only one event which gave you Mew and I don't think it happened outside Japan though."

It was definitely in North America and Europe. It was actually the only way to obtain Mew outside of the later discovered Mew Glitch.

Clbull
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Crystal was great for those of us who grew up on the original Gen I, but the underwhelming return to Kanto with its weak pokemon was definitely a disappointment. Red was super hard for me though.

Reazzurro