Is Solid Shot Really That Bad?

The War Thunder community has been abuzz with controversy surrounding both solid shot (conventional Armor Piercing rounds) and APHE shells. APHE has been behaving unrealistically for quite a while, but some believe AP rounds are borderline useless. We're going to see if the latter is true.

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Is Solid Shot Really That Bad?

[Spookston]

I was planning to make this before the recent news, please don't get too rambunctious in the replies

[thisangell]

Spookston: "They can fix this spawncamping issue with an extra spawn."

Gaijin: "Oh No flanking you mean!" *Explodes the bridges and removes most of the dynamic in the map for Domination*

[ranger_savage]

Spookston normally: "I fucking hate british vehicles."

Spookston when someone says it's a pain to play Britain: "Actually they're not that bad."

[CT-wwyi]

Hey you know what also gets a solid shot? The M42 Contraero. It’s so good, trust me.

[kriceis]

Oh, so his 75mm solid shot annihilates entire crews, but my 105 solid shot makes crews the simpsons and that doesn't even get me an assist

[jcorr]

5:29 To be fair, as soon as you give French autoloading tanks APHE they become absolute menaces on the field. Going through an entire tree with essentially only solid shot builds some great habits that translate very well once you get better ammo

[mantissa]

Spookston and Odd together: Fuck British vehicles and fuck solid shit

Spookston after APHE nerf starts getting discussed: Solid shot ain't bad

[tristandaries]

0:41 Spookston’s got his Halo reference any% down to less than a minute now

[iamgeschwind]

I remember firing at a T34 on it’s side with my 120mm Obus de Rupture round, and somehow it made not even a single spall.

[xixi_]

I think that most people think to a certain degree that APHE works in-game kinda like it did IRL, nuke shells or the amount of Post-Pen damage, where as it really was a slightly better AP round, that’s why the british did only use solid shot, same for the Baguette launchers

[Kuschel_K]

Cromwell vs. M24 doing side shots is a mile of difference with how APHE works compared to how weak solid shot is.

[k-osmonaut]

you know what definitely isn't bad? the amx-50 to90/930 at 8.0!

[thesupreme]

In frontal engagements the difference is smaller though still significant. On side on engagement its a night and day. Solid shot needs to actually aim properly because if they get a bad shot or bad rng they are dead, aphe can hit cirtually everywhere and oneshot you.

Aphe isnt fine the way it is.

[thatchris]

Current state Comet with its apds really does make you question why it needed a reload nerf on top of it being shell shatter city

[stuchris]

spookston: Britain isnt that bad
also spookston: uncapped AP is insufferable
britain: multiple tanks with only uncapped AP

[misteronsepatro]

You don't need explosive filler when the ennemy ammo racks can act as one

That's what I thought when starting to play France

[miss_bec]

My take on solid shot and the intended APHE changes is about consistency. Solid shot - and kinetic rounds in general - suffer from massive inconsistency issues that makes using them a nightmare. Yes, I regularly suffer from skill issues. No, that doesn't excuse Shot Mk.8 hitting a cannon breech with 3 megajoules of energy sometimes only turning it yellow and killing one crew member, or directly impacting ammo stowage and destroying it but not cooking it off. If the intended APHE changes were rolled out AFTER improving the consistency of solid shot, I think I'd be much more receptive to it, but we've seen how Gaijin are when it comes to rolling out changes (stares at volumetric which is still completely useless to this day) so that's incredibly wishful thinking, and I'm sure they'd bugger that up too.

[oulaelsharif]

I am begging and pleading, please Sergeant York

[TheOreoOverlord]

2:40 french main here, horribly offended. The SA50 has more penetrative, slightly better reload, better depression, and much better survivability because the firefly removes the hull gunner meaning that a turret shot kills you instead of allowing you to get a new gunner and continue fighting. It's also more accurate than the firefly's sabot shell but the sabot isn't really great so we won't mention it more. In conclusion SA50 much better

[bonnibelio_]

French solid shot especially starting at 90mm is devastating, the m4a1 fl10 and amx-13 sa50 don't do that much but the 5 second reload really helps, still the sa50 does much more than the firefly somehow damage-wise

(the SA50 is just the cannon, FL10 has that same cannon just with an autoloader, and they both get the same shells except the tech tree one gets an additional AP shell with more pen)