40K - THE EMPEROR OF MANKIND IS A FALSE GOD | Warhammer 40,000 Lore/Speculation

Timestamps:
0:00 Intro - Doubts
2:46 Those Shamans
12:12 Emperor - Soul Hunter
25:54 Vengeance
29:40 Natural Order
33:26 *Redacted*
39:23 The Wanderer
56:45 Opinions

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[Luetin]

This could have been Emperor of Man part 5, but I thought better a single stand alone - have some more creative ideas on just what the EMPS is all about, tell me below

[jaketheberge]

You know most of YouTubes videos are subtle about their heresy. Luetin makes sure its right their in the title. Really makes the Inquisitors jobs easier.

[fyrfly]

Warning! Detecting extreme levels of heresy.

[MrObasiah]

One of the favorite things I’ve seen someone say about 40k lore is “everything is canon, not everything is true”

[_ipsissimus_]

My favorite part of 'the master of mankind' is when the Emperor is questioned how he didnt forsee the betrayal. He says that forsight is like seeing an island off the coast and saying that you could get there by boat or swimming or even flying, but you cant see the currents or waves, or the wind, or whether there may be storms, or the islanders attack your ship before you can make it to shore. He says he can see the target, the possible future that he wants, but cannot see how to get there. And if that is true, then he got absolutely rekt.

[sonofangron]

*Me, seeing Luetin take one step closer to the Primordial Truth, nodding and grinning*

“Yes, that’s it… Keep going…”

[kithsakhai]

makes a lot of sense with the legion "thousand sons" being actually "thousand suns" powering the chair, with magnus at the center.

[berzaindejesus]

This heresy shall be investigated by the inquisition, blessed be he who vowed to saved humanity from all the dangers in the universe. Once again, thank you sir for your dedication to this lore. Your work is outstanding!

[Swagnesium]

I remember reading the shaman origin in the 4th ed rulebook. I always liked that version because it made the imperium an entirely human story. Having the emperor being a weird alien thing kinda robs the story of it's humanity.

[roryokane]

I always assumed it was a “two birds one stone” thing for the Imperium to feed psykers to the Golden Throne - gets rid of potential daemon-fodder, and keeps the Emperor going. Three birds, if you count keeping the portal shut.

[rks]

When I went through the history of Emperor and how he tried to do everything he did, I always had a feeling that ever since he revealed himself, he had to rush. Even though it was taking decades or centuries, I always had a feeling that the Emperor is fighting against time. That's why he had to cut corners and resolve to violence and slaughter. Because he had no time for pleasantries, things had to be done as fast as possible, otherwise it will be too late. Of course I'm talking about galactic scale so it's not a matter of minutes but thousands of years. Which in galactic scales... is basically a matter of seconds. :D

[DCAMM]

I like the theory that the Golden Throne was made to kind of "repair" the Emperor, like a battery. Designed only to be "charged" for a set amount of time and then stopped so that the Emperor could return and lean man forward again...but then they never stopped. So if they ever do, by this theory, he would be filled with so much psychic power who knows what it could possibly do.

[Splatterpunk_OldNewYork]

I am a real fan of the suggested lore that the emperor was a techno barbarian warlord in one of his many lives, and that the eagle aquilla was his jolly roger flag in those times.

[claytondora]

Edit: Remember The Emperor sacking the Tower of Babel with his first Warmaster in lost prehistory. They were utilizing that forerunner language to encode the secrets of the material universe. The Emperor wanted to use it, Oll Persson thought it was too dangerous and brought the tower crashing down.

The Emperor is a friend to humanity. At one point Malchador or someone else remarks that the EoM could have totally disgarded the human form for his new race, but said he was something of a sentimentalist, and if he started off from scratch, what would be the point. This can also be seen in the disparity of his treatment of baseline humans and astartes - he respected Men, he used Astartes.

[kriddius]

My 2 cents: The Emperor has known all along he would become interred upon the golden throne, the rise of the dark powers, the slow decay of the Imperium and his unwilling ascendency to false godhood through the ecclesiarchy. He's also set in place a master plan to use the warp against itself and to mimic the fall of the Eldar towards a just cause.
The warp manifests every soul's thought and emotion. The Emperor is now worshipped as a god by uncounted billions and has been for some time. The throne keeps him anchored to this life by a very tenuous thread, but alive all the same. Millenia of worship has been coalescing in the warp and his powers sustained by the diligent efforts of the black ships. What if his long term plan all this time was to emulate the birth of Slaanesh with himself as the focus? If, after all hope is lost and the Terminus Decree is enacted, the Emperor's living body is terminated allowing his soul to finally break free of his mortal prison and birth himself in the warp as a new god of man, just as Slaanesh was for the eldar in eons past?
With the powers of a god at his command he could shut the gates of hell and forever deny chaos the material plane, saving humanity from the ruinous powers for all eternity

[Dsan]

Headcanon but could it be that the shamans actual goal in mass suicide was to create a entity in the warp that was the first and only human God created in the warp and force it to be born in reality? Believing that humanity needed a god like entity capable of combating the terrors both in the warp and in real space.

The emperor for his part, knew what he was but he didn’t want to be the human god. Actively rejecting his true purpose in hopes of achieving the same goal in another way, not as a human made warp god made real but as a man.

[odonmezesb.]

50:20 Another theory to note is that Malcador the Sigillite exists, and the Emperor - never did! He was a golem, a psychic projection of Malcador. The one sitting on the golden throne IS the Sigillite.

[SB-]

"When discussing the throne device, he speaks to it as some culmination of human knowledge, and he somewhat can't take _all_ the praise for its achievement."

It was purchased from Nagash during one of his garage sales.

[Arcain]

Not even halfway through this heresy and I already feel the madness taking hold. Truly the Emperor punishes me for my impudence

[raideurng]

"You were inadvertently creating a Chaos God of Unbelief and you were becoming it's champion, perhaps even it's avatar." Magnus the Red