Francis Chan, James White, and Controversy over the Eucharist

Last week Protestant pastor Francis Chan made headlines when he expressed amazement over the historic teaching of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. This prompted Reformed apologist James White to weigh in on the controversy and Trent replies to White's statements about the Eucharist.

[JenniferoftheSea]

I'm a Protestant and i just wanted to say I truly appreciate the tone of the disagreement here. It's charitable. No ad hominem attacks, etc. There is strong disagreement, but no ugliness. This is good.

[paxcoder]

Brothers and sisters, please pray for Francis Chan, that He be protected by God from outside pressure in his decisions, may they be to His Father's glory. Of course, after praying for ourselves and those closest to us, for our own souls. God be with you.

[aadschram]

The sister of James White, Patty Bond-White, crossed the Tiber many years ago.

[johnflorio]

Francis Chan has discovered what we Catholics have known for almost 2, 000 years.

[merum]

I love my catholic faith so much. Brings me extremely close to Christ and I pray for the whole world.

[trudy-annbrown]

Protestants literally fail to understand that not only Catholics have this views but traditional anglicans and Lutherans, Eastern Orthodox and oriental orthodox. Protestants can be so anti catholic at times. We just have to pray for them.

[melanieanderson]

How come it seems like that Calvinist's put much much stock in Augustine but apparently do not support his view of the Real Presence in the Eucharist?

[dsmp]

James White is growing on me as a recurring villain. He’s like a member of team rocket that keeps blasting off

[mrsjenfvillasenor]

Thank you for commenting on this! I was listening to his podcast and was hoping someone would respond to him. I find him quite off putting, but I am not very articulate in Catholic theology YET. So thank you!

[MrTagahuron]

James White is really disturbed. He mumbles Church history.

[geraldarcuri]

As a former devout Roman Catholic who now is in a Reformed church, this is the best, most succinct and honest discussion of the Real Presence that I have come across. I have never thought that Protestant views and practices of the Eucharist had much to recommend them, and some celebrations of "The Lord's Supper" ( a most unfortunate and inapt descriptor for the Last Passover meal ) are anodyne in the extreme. When this central defining act of communion within the church becomes mere symbol, it is utterly emptied of any meaning. What are we communing with? Symbolism? Memorialization? How is that even possible.

I have other problems with the Roman Catholic Mass, but I have always maintained that when Christ said to the apostles, "This is my body; this is my blood", he was not using a metaphor. The Real Presence is the only belief that does justice to those words of our Savior and Lord.

[Eye_of_a_Texan]

It wasn't defined as a Dogma for so long, because it was so unified, so universally understood, that it didn't need to be so defined.

[punk]

Thank God i was able to find to your Channel Trent! One of my favorite apologist! 👍👍👍👍

[defeatingdefeaters]

Trent, you’re good, man. I truly appreciate your work.

[JattaMD]

Great work as usual, Trent! God bless you.

[allisonsmith]

Thank-you Trent. We have been waiting a long time for this.

[pedrorodriguez]

The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist (Communion) was confessed and taught throughout the early church, the early church fathers, and throughout diverse faith traditions: Roman Catholic church, Eastern Orthodox church, Oriental Orthodoxy (Armenia, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Sudan) church, the Church of the East, the Lutheran church, the Anglican church, the Methodist church, and The Moravian Church (formed in 1457). These Christian Traditions have a Sacramental Theology. I am a baptized christian within the Confessional Lutheran Tradition, so therefore, I am a "protestant". @prmentor (1/18/20 Saturday)

[StevenFogelberg]

I Saw Trent, and I Clicked it. Subscribed it. 😉

[DanUtley]

I can’t stand it when somebody speaks in a way that is clearly understandable (I.e., you know what they mean), and then somebody else has to tear out their jugular because they didn’t use precise, lawyer-like language.

[takmaps]

James White has been spouting heresies for a long minute now