What if the Roman Empire Never Fell?

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When you're an Orthodox priest and see yourself pictured in the video of a YouTube channel to which you have been subscribed for three years (minute mark 11:22) and are caught between struggling not to spit my tea all over your keyboard and wondering "how did my deacons and I here in Western Pennsylvania become representative of the medieval Byzantine Church?".

galor
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How about: "what if Byzantine Empress Irene accepted Charlemagne's marriage proposal?" I would be fascinated to see you tackle that one.

tiberiuscodius
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Pupienus has a name that sounds like a Monty Python sketch.

enoughothis
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The Western Roman collapse was the most supreme example of Balkanization in history. Literally half a continent just blew apart into various warlord states and petty kingdoms and didn’t really coalesce again for another 700 years or so.

Catman
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So you’re telling me a guy named Pupienus could have been the savior of Rome? That’s now my favorite history fact

drunknhamster
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“Can we have content that isnt rome?”
Monsier Z: no
Whatifaltist: no

kaihinton
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I have a idea for three French Revolution related What If’s: “What if France during the French Revolution of 1789 remained a Constitutional Monarchy instead of becoming a Republic in 1792”, “What if the Flight to Varennes had been successful”, and “What if the French Revolution of 1789 had never happened”.

NerdManReturns
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Instead of the roman empire never colapsing what would happen if the byzantine empire had manage to reconquer all of romes former borders?

Mr.Flame
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The Industrial Revolution was sparked by the invention of the steam engine, whose primary use at first was to drain water out of coal mine shafts in Britain. Had the Roman Empire not fallen, a larger European population might have gone through the easy to get at surface coal faster and they might have developed the steam engine sooner as a result. I always kinda pictured Alternate History Rome going through the industrial revolution in the 14th century as a result.

chrisamon
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Rome every 10 years:"does anything"





:YOUR FREE TRIAL OF STABILITY HAS ENDED.PLEASE PRESS "CIVIL WAR" TO CONTINUE.

randomletterhead
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Interesting thing about the likening of Rome to a fascist dictatorship:

To be precise, fascism is Mussolini's ideology, and it's inspired by the Roman fasces, which symbolized unity under the authority of the Roman magistrate. So, it's not a far stretch to say the Roman empire was the original Fascist regime.

SacredCowStockyards
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While the term "Butterfly" effect is new, the concept is old. There is that old poem:
For loss of a nail a horseshoe was lost.
For loss of a horseshoe a horse was lot.
For loss of a horse the rider was lost.
For lack of a rider a message was lost.
For loss of a message a battle was lost.
For loss of a battle a war was lost.
For loss of a war a kingdom was lost.
For loss of a kingdom the empire was lost.

The concept of proximate cause and dominoes falling has been part of insurance for centuries.
That something, apparently trivial, can happen far away and cause a global impact is part of our modern world.
Say, for example some scientists in Wuhan China are studying bat coronaviruses and cause a global pandemic.

DogWalkerBill
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“Unless you’re part of the diehard Byzantine fanboy crew...”

Also known as Greece

patstudios
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Video idea: What if the Norse kept colonizing the Americas after discovering Newfoundland?

TSGC
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I'm going to disagree with your assertion that the world would've been backwards technologically if the Romans had stuck around longer. They regularly used internal plumbing and heating and practiced public sanitation as well as having public firefighters. Features of their civilization that did not appear in Europe again until after the dark ages ended. Also the gunpowder thing... The Romans would have immediately adopted it's use. They were the world's greatest copiers. They invented road building and sewers, but any time they saw something better, they used it. Chainmail, Lamellar Armor, Cataphracts, maniples, all things they did not invent but copied, then adapted to use in their military.

AngrypnY
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"fell spectacularly"
Proceeds to explain how it took more than 1000 years later to finally fall😂

darthcalanil
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Imagine " Pupienus the Great, savior of the Great Roman Empire, the biggest and most glorious one in history"

Siqueirao
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I feel like the Anglo saxons would still migrate to the British isles and dominate the region since Rome wouldn’t be able to hold on to it. I think we could possibly view this timeline’s version of Britain much like japan in the east. However This timeline’s England/Britain wouldn’t advance as quickly technically because of its lack of competition from mainland Europe like France, however I think this timeline’s Britain would industrialize

tylerlachney
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The only way for Rome to survive was, if it had stayed a Republic and the Marian Reforms had been changed so that the Soldiers woudnt be devoted to their generals, but rather to the state.

callido
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Here’s one: “what if the proletarian guard wasn’t full of traitors?”

MIC_Enjoyer