Moog Subsequent 37 : Not for Everyone (1 year review)

I usually don't take that long to review and give my opinion about gear I own..
But this one caused me a lot of frustration... and really wanted to take the time to be sure to don't jump to conclusion...

Well guess what, this synthesizer is probably the best sounding synthesizer I tried, still though.. couldn't make it fit my track...

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⌚ Timeline:
00:00 Intro
00:26 What I love
05:22 What I Hate
07:44 What I overlooked
14:51 Better than clone or Vst Emulation ?
16:08 Not for everyone

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[jetpacksnake]

You can set the modulation wheel to lfo rate etc, it’s in the menus

[tkexit]

You gotta add the Feedback AND the Filter Drive to the list of features that not many synths have. Add to that a dedicated square sub and this thing just screams. The VST and digital patch saving is a HUGE feature that made me choose this over the Matriarch/Grandmother. I totally love mine, and would say for harder styles it works great, but agree it's all about what sound you're going for.

[lawrencevaughan]

I sold mine, I liked it, but it was far too aggressive. I do miss the moog filter. It sounded incredible, but I’m more into poly synths. I do remember the BPM wasn’t adjustable on the arp / sequencer via the screen. When I had it, it only had tap tempo. Did they update that?

[kenimegan]

12:24 how do you do this arpegio 😮 i love it ❤ i so near to "invisible" tracks of NTO or Paul Kalkbrenner
Do you think i can do the same with my poly d or a vst ?

[RayyMusik]

When it comes to bottom end, the S37 blows every other synth of mine out of the water, incl. a Poly D, MatrixBrute, let alone poly synths.

[TheRobinVisscher]

The modwheel is sensitive indeed, especially when it comes to the pitch amount, but you can change that. Press the controllers button in the mod 1 bus, then go to ctrl 4 amount en dial in 50%, this way its a lot less sensitive. it's not very intuitive though. thanks for the video!

[Rizamusic]

How do you feel about this synth now that 2 years has passed? I have the sub 37 too but Im feeling the same way as you. Sometimes it’s too dark and smooth to fit into my tracks. I think I’d be happier with a more aggressive/buzzier sounding synth. I’m considering swapping it for a matriarch but idk

[otuon]

I have to say, I love this topic. I dreamt of owning the Sub37. year after year i saved and watched everything about it. Now that I have it I am blown away by the greatness of it, but I noticed it is challenging to fit the sounds in a track. I will not get rid of it as I love it and fits in my work, but its definitely a challenge to fit it in most track styles.

[MJ-tgwb]

What are you talking about VST at 4:51 ? Link ??

[michelvondenhoff]

My fav synth of all time. Sound, price, versatility, keybed, overall finish. A little future classic imho.

[seancrawford]

thanks for this man, i just got on and very much excited to dig into some of the features you pointed out - i have a feeling this one is actually going to be a good fit after looking at it objectively

[kierenmoore]

Great, honest (useful!) review. Thank you!
Have you tried/compared with the Pro 3, at all?!

[RaniOsnat]

I absolutely love my Subsequent 37, it’s amazingly tweakable. As others pointed out, you’re wrong about the mod wheel, it can be programmed to control anything via the menus.
As you correctly pointed out, the setting on the mixer is key. It starts to overdrive and change the tone past the midpoint. In the first few weeks I owned mine, I was blown away by the sound but wondered if it can sound anything but “phat”… then I discovered that bit in the documentation. If you want clean, gentler sounds that’s the key.
The other killer feature on it is the level of control you have over envelope triggering. I don’t know many synths that have flexibility. It makes the 37 amazing for leads, funky bass lines, and sequencing if you’re a half decent player.

[mickvdzwan]

So for something more raw as you said: what would be your goto in this pricerange?

[audiolego]

Pro 3 or Subsequent 37, I can't decide

[TaraIsTrans]

I bought the sub37 when it first came out. I sent it to Moog last year to get it upgraded to subsequent37 for $350, and they paid return shipping. The upgrade was well worth it. The sub37 was my first analog synth, and will definitely be keeping it. Might be looking for a moderately priced voyager in the near future. great review! you really unpacked your reservations with the synth as it fits into your music, instead of dissing its sound, well done.

[fuenstock]

Have you tried the sequential pro 3?
I’m curious how it would work for you?

[goodboid]

I completely get where you're coming from. But before you let this synth go, try pushing it through a fuzz pedal, like the AFA Godeater or something similar. I love my Sub 37, but mostly for progressive house. I'm looking to get a Eowave Quadrantid Storm for techno. It's tiny and sounds brilliant.

[BartWronsk]

Thanks for your honest review! It was a synth I was eyeballing for a while (I played one at my friends place and it sounded AMAZING!), and decided against it, mostly due to size and price. Your review makes me happy for my decision - I wish more people in the music community were so open about gear fitting different needs (in almost all reviews everyone is super happy about the gear - and yet they then change it for something else…)

[andivax]

Sub 37 has lower headroom so it is sounding much more agressive