'Overwatch Shouldn't Be Dying' | Flats Reacts

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[ArthurEverling]

It feels like the game is sick. It's not dying, but it sure feels like it.

[ollybomb]

we need more content like animated shorts, those really helped establish Overwatch as an IP. How there’s not an Overwatch show on netflix or something yet is beyond me and seems like such a missed opportunity

[Karzakus]

one thing I feel worth mentioning is that you shouldn't use twitch viewership to gauge how overwatch 2 is doing. Its numbers are heavily padded since they constantly have twitch drops, so a lot of people end up watching OW 2 streams when they aren't actually watching.

[JDvb]

A big problem with hero challenges to unlock them is if you miss two hero releases like I did (lifeweaver and illari) then you can only progress one character challenge at a time. So I needed 80 or so games for two heroes, during a season where both were very strong (last season)

[lonepengueen]

I played OW1 so casually back in 2018 I never knew how broken Brig was.. Now having a solid understanding of the game, she was

[Harucardiel]

"Weve already hit the floor"

Nah, even with the PVE thing id say thats more so a horrible mess thats gonna take alot to recover from but to say thats gonna the be the "bottom floor" is just wishful thinking, it can still get worse, idk how but gaming companies will find a way

[NightcoreNewbie]

Here's my problem with Flats statement around the 3 minute mark. If the developer craps the game into the ground or floor as he says, anything they do makes it seem like the game is "better" than it was. In reality, a piece of crap is still a piece of crap no matter what. Majority of the reason a sequel was announced was to use PvE as a selling point. Once that was cancelled, there were a lot of players who were ticked off for good reason.

[katsuragipapi]

People like to say "45 levels isnt that bad" which its not for someone playing the game daily but a more casual player who plays different games and has a job and family to take care of its pretty hard to get 45 levels before the charcter becomes irrelevant.

[theotherjared]

A stable player base is not necessarily a good thing for a f2p game. Since only a small amount of players will spend any amount of money, this puts a hard ceiling on the amount of revenue the game can make, especially after lootboxes were removed. The game needs to constantly pump out new content to keep money flowing in, which the current team has proven to struggle with.

[markittystuff]

Getting "Promised the world and gave us Rhode Island" on a shirt cause that's a fire line and I love the thought of making a trip to Rhode Island just to flaunt that shirt

[lilwintery]

there is a consistent player base so i don't think it's dying, but it's reputation outside of the ow community is dying/dead tho

[seraphina]

I feel like something else to consider is that it doesnt feel like people are recommending it. The player base may stay stagnant but it won't really grow if outside preception is this bad imo

[TheGamingGeezer]

Flats is never going to agree with any video like this cause his whole career is based on overwatch 2 staying active

[Mikuroko]

Looking back on the launch of the game most of the excuses on the PvP problems of was that they were working on PvE. They said it so much that many fans/creators were convinced at least half the team if not more was working on PvE which is why PvP balancing/problems were not getting fixed at all.

Let's not forget how bad the launch of OW2 was. When OW2 first launched, it was in "early access" mode because PvE was still coming.(Flats also mentioned it back in the day) Again this was with them without the freedom/having a say on things, but it doesn't take away the fact that it was a horrible launch. Successful? Sure, but being successful doesn't always mean it was good. Queue login times were horrendous, balance was all over, accounts needed phone#'s, accounts were locked for days, heroes were locked, account merging messes with everything, you'd get kicked out of a ranked match midway due to horrible servers and get banned, loot boxes turned into useless tokens(they're kinda okay now I guess but not during launch), the list goes on.

It was so bad that I literally got an email from Blizzard yesterday of them responding to my account merge issue I sent them a YEAR ago. Saying that everything should be fixed and thanking me for being patient.

So for me, after all the bad steps OW2 took since launch and sticking with them... believing they can deliver, and then dropping the bomb saying PvE isn't coming turned me from a diehard player into a casual play once per month kinda person. And it just sucks. "It just sucks" in my opinion is the best way to explain the whole situation. And if you read this whole thing thanks lol every time I see a video like this it just makes me want to vent out the frustrations.

[itsmandu]

Flats is too biased I’m glad he acknowledged that. He can’t even go through old patch notes without crumbling.

[SuperlexPlays]

*I'll do 1 pushup for every like this comment gets* 😢😊

[KiloGraham]

Launch week was BRUTAL. I wont stand for the erasure of what happened. I and any account that "preregistered" (so core players) in was locked out of ow2. And blizzard knew this was a problem. Preregistrating your account lead to your file being unusable on the new server. A dev communication days later explained that they already KNEW about this issue and that a solution was pushed several days out. They ddnt tell the core players who were hovering excitedand refreshing the game client for hours. Ow1 was gone i was locked out of ow2 and watching streamers get on for free. Blizzard, Communicate early and honestly. I could have stopped trying, made a sandwich or touched grass that week.

[NoDebuffs]

flats forgets that he used to be a "buT tHERe is STIll PvE"

[mutantraze]

Flats just doesn’t know how games like Diablo immortal make their money. Its gambling and the majority of their money is from whales. Its like that for EVERY gacha game and diablos is one of the greediest ones considering the company

[NitSoLegga__]

16:35 echo needs a minimum of 75 games to unlock (all wins) so you cant play her from the beginning in comp which only takes 50 wins