How Will History Remember The First BMW M4 (And Turbocharged F80 M3?)

Today I talk about the BMW M4 - a significant model for the company, and with its replacement due soon - what's going to happen to the M4 over the next few years?

#BMW #M3 #M4

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[Molloy]

I might not engage in a battle with you, James, about the way you feel driving it. But I will die in the trenches fighting your opinion about the appearance of the F82 M4. It’s one of the most gorgeous sport cars ever designed. I hope you have treated your vision ever since you published this video.
Differences apart, thank you for your work, Jay

[swb]

I do get the "danger" element. I have had an M4C for 2 years, and this is exactly why I like it. It's dangerous, unbelievably fast and handles so well. You respect the car and it teaches you how to drive. Had I done things differently I would have gone Alfa.

[hairyaardvark]

I think the M2 is really now what the M3 used to be

[marcellukacic]

These cars are criminally underrated. The engine, despite all the (unnecessary) hate, was a masterpiece. The throttle response for a TT engine was astonishing, it revved to 7600rpm, it sounded great IMO(only with the stock or a really good aftermarket exhaust) and it was way, way more reliable than the, ahem, questionable S65(questionable in context of reliability, otherwise it was a brilliant engine). In fact, it's probably the most reliable M engine ever made, and certainly one of the most reliable BMW engines full-stop. Yes, it had the crank hub issue, but that issue happened on a very small minority of cars which were either tuned or overrevved.
There were some other issues as well. The very first models were very intimidating to drive in the wet because the car simply couldn't handle the amount of torque it had and the power delivery was very spiky. Thankfully, Competition versions got a reworked M differential and suspension and those cars were much more planted and less intimidating on the road.
Knowing the next M3 will have beaver grilles and sound very muted(thanks EU), I think many people will miss this machine. It looks absolutely sensational, it sounds great and unique, it's excellent to drive and it's a brilliant all-rounder(certainly better than the E90). They're very cheap now as well, though I think their value will massively increase when the (hideous) G80 M3 arrives...

[wheelsonmywagon]

I run a number of cars from large suv to other sports cars... but I bought a new heavily discounted M4 last year to run as a third car, quite frankly it’s a hugely capable brilliant car.... 👍🙏

[chrisogrady]

Despite preferring a high revving, lower torque NA setup, I do really like the M4, mainly for RWD manual.
I am indeed a hooligan, only when there aren’t people around mind.

[Prvost]

Not great to not show up without a word. Hope they at least give an explanation.

[dommorton]

I had an M4 on demo last week and thought the same with the way it delivers the torque in a massive dollop, making the car completely unstable even at quite low speeds. Also have to agree on fuel economy. Whilst you don't expect it to be super frugal. I found even when plodding it was getting through alarming amounts of SUL. All that said its a lovely car and a lot of fun.

[sanmarino_cs]

Love my M4CS! Feels so special and drives way better than my previous F80 M3 competition package

[jean-pierred]

I drive an M4 Gts. Best car I ever had. Coming of an E46 M3 and F80 M3.
So I disagree with this part of the review. M4 Gts gets you in direct contact with the road and the sound is crazy, even from inside the car.
Not sure about the regular M4 but the regular M3 (F80-my prior car) was underwhelming and I hated the fake sound through the speakers.
I think M4 CS was also a great improvement over the basic M4.
I do enjoy your reviews by the way. Keep them coming...and try to get your hands on an M4 Gts!

[ASRmann]

I think the problem is you still seem to be stuck on reviewing the performance and drivability of a 2014 launch model M4. Granted I would agree with much of what you have said specifically in relation to a 2014 car, however as we are all aware, BMW introduced significant changes through the model years, from the first 2015 LCI to the first generation ZCP to the LCI2 facelift ZCP. A current 2018 M4 ZCP or CS and 2014 M4 base M4 can almost be said to be a different car entirely as a result of these changes. Most of the concerns you raise have now been entirely resolved. A 2018 M4 ZCP is a very well appointed car in all respects. Having previously owned a GTR I also entirely disagree the GTR is the more 'exciting' car. For the money, it doesn't really get much more exciting than the current M4 ZCP. GTR more capable car, in certain conditions absolutely, the more exciting in standard guise? No chance.

[pcarobsessed]

I am keeping my M4 until it breaks down. I love my austin yellow F82.

[stevehs]

I owned an E90 M3 and traded it in for the F80 when it was first released. The F80 looked incredible but your comment about the rear end breaking away in a straight line is correct - overtaking in the wet was a hairy experience. I miss my E90 M3, no where near as fast as the F80 but the high revving V8 and perfect balance between the handling and power made it such a joy to drive .

[brentpowell]

Ordered one back in the day after seeing it at the Geneva motor show, drove one, ordered cancelled, it never felt settle on UK roads, constantly moving around, best M car e92 V8 imo.
However buy and early well serviced looked after M4, take into a good after market company, upgrade suspension and you will have an excellent sports car 👍

[michaeloshea]

decent review....i like the fact you are without bias or personal agenda....we need to see you in a Honda NSX and BMW i8 as they have depreciated to an affordable level for a lot of your viewers...

[rare]

Rather have an Alpina. Better car. That said, the M4 got better with age. They made numerous changes over the years, the early cars are well known to be blunt instruments that can’t really handle all their torque.

[mikehedges]

I suggest you pop over to the ‘ring and get a passenger ride in a ring taxi M3, if they’ve still got them. Cracking bit of kit that takes 4 people in comfort and has a proper boot.

[qwerty]

It should be noted that, whilst early examples of the M4 were very spikey and unpredictable, the later ones i.e. the Comp models, were much more forgiving.

[jameskingston]

If you fancy reviewing a M3 comp let me know!

[ChasingTheApex]

Nice sub jump! Bravo! Literally the only YouTuber of any size that's willing to help smaller channels