Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI | Lex Fridman Podcast #419

Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:

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0:00 - Introduction
1:05 - OpenAI board saga
18:31 - Ilya Sutskever
24:40 - Elon Musk lawsuit
34:32 - Sora
44:23 - GPT-4
55:32 - Memory & privacy
1:02:36 - Q*
1:06:12 - GPT-5
1:09:27 - $7 trillion of compute
1:17:35 - Google and Gemini
1:28:40 - Leap to GPT-5
1:32:24 - AGI
1:50:57 - Aliens

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[lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
1:05 - OpenAI board saga
18:31 - Ilya Sutskever
24:40 - Elon Musk lawsuit
34:32 - Sora
44:23 - GPT-4
55:32 - Memory & privacy
1:02:36 - Q*
1:06:12 - GPT-5
1:09:27 - $7 trillion of compute
1:17:35 - Google and Gemini
1:28:40 - Leap to GPT-5
1:32:24 - AGI
1:50:57 - Aliens

[admkhaled]

I think I speak for everybody when I say, get Nvidia's CEO Jensen Huang on the podcast!

[eyannoronha]

“Take me through the OpenAI board saga”. My boy Lex got straight to the point XD

[truckngames]

I never thought I would say this but Lex looks more alive than his guest.

[vb]

Sam Altman would make a great politician! He talks a lot without actually saying anything.

[reidarmor]

It’s nice to include robots like Sam Altman in the conversation

[dabbiking]

Lex is the only channel I check the length of the video thinking: "only" 2 hours? ❤

[drewtabke]

Feels like he’s portraying a humble, sensitive persona when he may actually be an egomaniac with unbelievable power at his disposal. Didn’t learn much from this interview, but still engaging and important stuff watching Altman’s communication strategies.

[fateriddle]

I love Lex poked from every angle trying to get Sam to talk about about the openAI drama, and all responded with deplomatic answers or redirections. But then he asked how Sam felt, his personal feeling through this whole drama, finally it cracked.

[yousif]

This guy gives “The character who is on everyone’s good side, but actually turns out to be the villain” vibes

[Shaunmcdonogh-shaunsurfing]

Would be great to see an up and coming interview with Ilya

[davidc]

Sometimes sam's pauses are so quite I keep checking my wifi connection

[karafogertey]

Lex you have so transcended any interview of Altmann and any interview about AI. You patiently, empatheticly asked and then let him search internally for his answers, his thinking - good or bad. Thank you sir.

[benwilliams]

Thank you Lex. For these long discords to be able to hear and SEE someone's intent

[benstirling]

Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Jensen Huang and Bill Gates in one room with Lex hosting the discussion in a round table discussion would be insane and totally relevant. This would be the ultimate podcast.

[eamonshields]

This dude speaks like such a politician

[anyu]

Lex asked all the right questions, but I remember nothing from Altman's answers after the interview completes.

[karafogertey]

My AI Agent. So his endgame becomes clear. I understand social phobias and fear of deep connection but he just revealed that he wants or is motivated by wanting a personal AI agent that will know literally everything about him and accept and help him - a feeling he wants from people in his life but has not had. This is a frightening motive for creating a “system” that could hold so much harm to human society and life. I didn’t expect to be so alarmed when starting this podcast. Lex has been amazing in this interview.

[BestOfTate]

How can someone so smart teach us so little after a 2 hour interview

[elntpsd]

The amount of vocal fry is truly Elizabeth Holmes level.