Leslie Kean: UFO 'Balloons,' Afterlife, Cover-Ups

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Leslie Kean is an investigative journalist and author who is most notable for books about UFOs and the afterlife. Sponsors:

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- Leslie Kean's Lecture at Rice University re: physical mediumship and Stewart Alexander:

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 "There are entities more advanced than us."
00:05:09 What are UFOs?
00:15:28 Relationship with Chris Mellon and Lue Elizondo
00:25:21 This is why we need to take UFO sightings seriously
00:27:15 North American UAP "Balloons"
00:29:13 "These objects are clearly not extraterrestrial."
00:30:43 [Ross Coulthart] White House vs. Pentagon on UAPs
00:33:44 We don't have a stigma problem, we have a cowardice problem
00:35:29 Evidence indicating extraterrestrials or breakaway civilization
00:41:08 One side is the alien (ET) hypothesis, the other is…
00:45:56 What classifies "The Phenomenon" exactly?
00:48:33 Developing Psi abilities after UAP encounters
00:50:57 Leslie's research into the afterlife
01:00:41 Skinwalker and communicating with the deceased
01:04:57 Peer reviewed studies on the afterlife
01:14:21 Disclosure destabilizes society? I don't buy it!
01:18:20 [Tom Delonge] Gov't secrecy is good for us
01:23:01 The infamous Varginha case
01:26:13 Who knows more? Gov't vs. Private industry (Lockheed Martin)
01:28:08 The Wilson Memo
01:32:01 Stewart Alexander (the physical medium)
01:39:32 Ectoplasm and etheric hands
01:42:01 Apparitions
01:48:08 Pentagon reports studying mediumship / peer-reviewed studies
02:05:02 "UFOs: Investigating the Unknown"
02:08:05 Something big is coming in 2030s
02:12:16 How would the world change if they knew what Leslie knew?
02:13:19 What convinces Leslie that UFOs are intelligent?
02:16:20 Time-traveling human hypothesis
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Timestamps and Sponsors:
00:00:00 “There are entities more advanced than us.”
00:05:09 What are UFOs?
00:15:28 Relationship with Chris Mellon and Lue Elizondo
00:25:21 This is why we need to take UFO sightings seriously
00:27:15 North American UAP "Balloons"
00:29:13 "These objects are clearly not extraterrestrial."
00:30:43 [Ross Coulthart] White House vs. Pentagon on UAPs
00:33:44 We don't have a stigma problem, we have a cowardice problem
00:35:29 Evidence indicating extraterrestrials or breakaway civilization
00:41:08 One side is the alien (ET) hypothesis, the other is…
00:45:56 What classifies "The Phenomenon" exactly?
00:48:33 Developing Psi abilities after UAP encounters
00:50:57 Leslie's research into the afterlife
01:00:41 Skinwalker and communicating with the deceased
01:04:57 Peer reviewed studies on the afterlife
01:14:21 Disclosure destabilizes society? I don’t buy it!
01:18:20 [Tom Delonge] Gov’t secrecy is good for us
01:23:01 The infamous Varginha case
01:26:13 Who knows more? Gov't vs. Private industry (Lockheed Martin)
01:28:08 The Wilson Memo
01:32:01 Stewart Alexander (the physical medium)
01:39:32 Ectoplasm and etheric hands
01:42:01 Apparitions
01:48:08 Pentagon reports studying mediumship / peer-reviewed studies
02:05:02 "UFOs: Investigating the Unknown"
02:08:05 Something big is coming in 2030s
02:12:16 How would the world change if they knew what Leslie knew?
02:13:19 What convinces Leslie that UFOs are intelligent?
02:16:20 Time-traveling human hypothesis

TheoriesofEverything
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Around the 1h30min mark, she said "I would need 3 hours" and Curt immediately says "I have the time". I love that Curt does that, It really says 'You don't need to boil it down, take the time to include the details and nuances. Thanks, Curt, for another great interview.

lievenyperman
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Got to hand it to Leslie for having the willingness not only to be honest and vulnerable, but to say the one thing we almost never hear anymore: 'I'm not qualified to talk about that." Major props.

JMnyJohns
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Well done Leslie for having the guts to talk about this .

expendable
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This is the first 2+hr interview I've ever sat through in my life. Curt's style is open, curious and non-judgemental and I feel this transferred to Leslie's open-book honesty. Highly commended.

timg
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Curt is the best interviewer in this space. Hyper intelligent so he knows exactly what to say and when to get the participant to speak about the most interesting things they know. I know he won't ramble and just speak for the sake of speaking like Lex. I look forward to watching his entire catalog. I am even clicking on all of the ads and sponsors because he deserves it. Curt, if you're reading this, keep it up, brother. This podcast will be known as a historic stepping stone to the coming major ontological changes of humanity.

Aedonius
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I'm extremely skeptical of nearly all the claims but I feel like Leslie's honesty, vulnerability, and willingness to face stigma moved my needle. I really appreciate her time and am so thankful to hear from guests like her.

Thank you, Leslie!

HumblyQuestioning
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Thank you for your continuous effort to keep the UAP/UFO phenomenon in the spotlight!

markp.
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Truly a joy to have watched this channel grow into this. Proud of Curt. Appreciative to have benefited “spiritually” from being a part of this community

jonathanbutler
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"What we know is a drop what we don't know is an ocean." That pretty much nails it. What an awesome show. Thanks to both of you.

Yewbzee
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I had to add another comment, I want to say but this is absolutely one of the best interviews that I have seen on these subjects. Leslie's candor and honesty, personality and the way you both interact with each other and Curts acceptance of the topics was absolutely perfect. Thank you for the great interview.

Chicken_hawk
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The last few years, you can feel the shift from UFO/UAP experiencers/researchers going from "weirdo's" to highly sought after witnesses and experts in the field. Crazy to see how this change has come along and many thanks to everyone who has come out regarding this topic. 🍻

doctorcameltoe
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Thanks Leslie and Curt. A truly phenomenal interview. 💚♾️

andyoates
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Regarding the medical effects, in 1997, after my own UFO sighting in broad daylight, I was told the most incredible story about a healing literally by UFO. A VERY serious man in his 50s told me with VERY serious bloodshot eyes that he had a horrible elbow condition after a lifetime of wear, was scheduled for surgery the next morning, and while lying in his bed next to his wife on his estate, he was sitting up on a 45 degree angle pillow and couldn’t sleep. As he lay there he felt something in his elbow. When he looked down, he saw his elbow seems to be glowing green. As his eyes adjusted, he realized that he was seeing a glowing green tendril of plasma coming from somewhere and entering his elbow. As he looked to the right he saw the green plasma tendril stretching to and through the closed window and reaching all the way to a low hill 1/4 mile away and he could clearly see a “classic” silver UFO partially blocked by the hill emitting the green plasma. He opened his mouth to scream and nothing came out. He tried to reach and shake his wife but couldn’t move. He stopped struggling, realizing he couldn’t do anything and after a minute more or so, he saw the green plasma literally pull back & out of his elbow slowly at first and then quickly all the way back to the UFO and after it reached the craft, there was a slight pause & then he saw that craft shoot in and out of sight so fast, it was a blur. He somehow fell asleep after all of that and woke up, sat up straight and realized he could now move his arm and elbow in ways that he previously couldn’t. He no longer felt pain. He grabbed his wife who thought he was crazy, drove down to the hospital, found his doctor who was shocked since he wasn’t supposed to be there yet, he insisted that he was cured, showed the doctor how he moved, doctor couldn’t believe it, he insisted on X-rays, and the new X-rays showed his elbow was now completely corrected and looked like an 18 year old’s arm, basically. He swore the doctor to silence, went home and didn’t tell anyone until he knew I had an interest in the subject.

So, not all UFO medical effects are bad, apparently. “They” clearly, some at least, have incredible healing technology. We should think about that before we shoot down any UAP/UFOs.

mattsapero
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Leslie watching Curts show. Man you could see the pride in Curt's eyes. It really is high quality information. Thank you both so much for your efforts

Alex-ipdn
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Leslie's documentary, Surviving Death, changed my life. Thank you Curt for your interviewing style. I watch all of your videos. And thank you Leslie for being curious, open, and authentic.

blake
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Fantastic interview! Clearly, we are at a pivotal moment in history. Thanks Curt!!!

iiq
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This conversation was superb. Leslie's openness and honesty was so engaging. And Curt you did a great job allowing her to continue when she thought she shouldn't. Her medium experiences really were the most interesting part of this podcast. You both nailed this. Thank you.

DavidDavoDavidson
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This is an amazing interview, thank you Curt! Leslie is the real deal

marie
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This was one of my favorite interviews EVER.
I’ve watched the “Surviving Death” series start to finish 3 times now and had been looking forward to this interview from the moment I saw the name.
There’s so much to say… But, I just wanted to touch on the fact that I’m so many of the stories, or answers to questions, Leslie sounded like maybe we weren’t following along, or out of context it was odd or whatever the case..
Personally, I know I’ve done my due diligence into Leslie and everything she is involved in (publicly anyway). Those parts specifically, were the absolute best parts of the conversation! I kept replaying sections and discussing with friends in real time.
My interest in basically everything touched on was a traumatic brain injury, and went through 3 10+ hour brain surgeries in late 2019 to remove a Brain Tumor..
The Out of Body experience I had, I was watching my BRAIN be operated on from above.
I’ve also lost a younger brother, and have had interactions with something that I can only attest to him.

I really need to submit my entire story to Leslie, maybe there’s something in there that helps me out in processing this stuff, or better yet sheds some light onto something that would help, or at least reinforce a lot of her opinions and such.

Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your conversations Curt. If you would have told me 3 years ago I’d be watching 3+ hour interviews on these sorts of topics, I would have probably laughed in your face..
Boy am I glad I was awoken, I just can’t stop thinking about ALL of this stuff.

Leslie A+ Curt A+
Can’t wait to see what’s next ✌️

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