Is The Intermarium Inevitable?

Throughout the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the greater Russo-Ukrainian War that has been on-going since Russia's annexation of Crimea, and truly the greater history of modern Ukraine, Poland has stood as one of Ukraine's most reliable allies, but these actions by Poland are part of a much bigger geo-political play to establish a reliable and secure alliance with its Eastern and Central European neighbors in the model of its Post-World War Intermarium Plan. Much like people, this plan stands as a means by which the Central European powers, with Poland at their heart, can counter the might and influence of Germany in the West and Russia in the East. While this plan failed to manifest back then in part because of Ukraine's reconquest by the Soviet Union, might Poland have a better opportunity this time around, or might Russia's war with Ukraine be history repeating itself once again? In today's geopolitics video we ask the question of is the Intermarium inevitable?
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[MonsieurDean]

Tune in this Wednesday for another *EPIC polish ADVENTURE*

[quickhistory]

Never ask
a woman her weight
A man his salary
Or the polish government what happened to their T-72s

[mr.nemesis]

Poland really does have the mentality of “Poland will have its borders even if it’s on the last map humanity ever draws”.

[gregetter]

One element that isn't discussed but have thought about is how likely would Poland look into getting nuclear weapons of their own as a deterrent?

[brianhess]

0:56 when you call the general government a Polish rump state, makes it sound like the Poles were a willing puppet regime like Slovakia. But as every Pole will tell you, usually very angrily, there was no Polish collaborationist government. Only an ethnically German government formed with the local German minority population and government officials brought in from the Reich. I know this might sound like a nit pick and I am pretty sure that the mistake was the result of the short format of the vid.

[andybogdan]

As a romanian i really like this concept. At least a mutual defense pact with all intermarium countries would help fend off Russia. Unfortunately i see many of my countrymen not caring or thinking the germans and the french would care for them when they have proven to only care about their interests to other countries detriment.

[cabra]

As a Hungarian, I would love to see this come together. Maybe we could even bond with Romania a bit and get a better over all relationship on a civilian level.

[zubstep]

Good video, but missing a key part of the psyche in this part of the world. Poland doesn't want to change its borders; that invites chaos as we are seeing in the east. You only make enemies playing that game, and it's not even remotely worth it. Poland, in particular its society, wants to rigidly maintain some borders and to transcend others, in the interests of mutual defense, ensuring enough dynamic freedom for the individual to prosper, and preserving the nation and its well-being. It is an existential imperative, not an ambition to imperial glory like that of its erstwhile rivals of the past. Pursuing the latter would be a betrayal of the Polish identity as forged by its historical experience. In other words, pursuit of something neo-imperial would be to become just like its enemies, a total defeat at the level of national identity. No, the future is about something else, while the present is clearly embodying "For our freedom and yours." Maybe the future is about subsidiarity, liberty and fraternity with its closest neighbors. I don't know, but it's not a run at imperialistic single-state union.

[SuperZombieBros]

I hope I don’t ever get drafted into a war if the conflict grows large enough to justify reinstating it. Poland is one of the few countries I would consider worth fighting for though.🇺🇸🇵🇱💪

[ninjawarrior]

We'll see how Poland's relationship with Hungary survives the war in Ukraine. At the moment, Hungary doesn't want to sacrifice a large part of its oil and gas supply, and some people are accusing Hungary of planning to take pre-Trianon lands in Ukraine.

[piotrsieminski]

It is not that the intermarium has to be a contradiction to the EU - on the contrary, the purpose is to be something like Benelux or Scandinavia - a group of countries that have their own interests, that can make a stand against Germany and France, which often impose their particular national will on the rest by branding it European.

[grantypoo]

As an American I wish the Polish the best of luck and it’s looking like a very bright future for them (Finally)

[Skiskiski]

Germany did not reduce Poland to a landlocked state. The General Government or General Governorate was a German state. The Germans outright annexed some parts of Poland and were preparing the area of the General Government for the future annexation into the Greater German State.

[boomerix]

As a Hungarian I think the Intermarium would be for the best. Currently we are just "small" nations between the Russians and the West. Both who want to control us one way or another. Out petty conflicts with each other that may divide us only serve to secure control for the foreign powers that want to control us. Today's generations do not care about the past, young Slovaks, Hungarians and Romanians can have a Beer together with maybe some banter, but on friendly terms. The Intermarium is the best road on which we all can keep our independence, work on building prosperity in our region and to defend each other against any aggressor, no matter from which direction they may come.
We do not seek to conquer or control others like the Russians or the Colonial West, we just want peace and to be left alone.

[johng]

I've been a major advocate of this since 2016 and actually based my undergraduate and graduate focus around it. I believe the Three Seas Initiative is one avenue for its manifestation which would be great to cover. Likewise I could use different perspectives from fellow Slavs.

[jankubiak]

The General Government is Not part of the Polish state succession. It was an occupational authority run by Germans, not poles, and frankly I'm disappointed its included as-if it is part of Polish legacy.

[Kubus-eskd]

Lithuania and the other Baltic states are also not Slavic, despite Lithuania having a substantial polish minority which has been the reason for the two states continued tension.

[zakhalsy]

I love Poland 🇵🇱 ♥️ ❤️ it is the best. Żyj długo Polsko

[kilstrit]

This project is higly improbable and Poland seems to be the only country eager to create Intermarium.

- First and foremost, Ukraine is grateful for our help but they don't want to stick to Poland in their development, we are too weak and too poor. Despite their dissapointment with current German politics, in the long run they want to join the EU and base their safety on ties with Western Europe.

- Lithuanians kinda fear us - what we see as great Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth of equal countries, they see as domination at best. Not to mention our 1920 false flag operation to annex Vilnius (yes, mostly inhabitet by Poles back then but still, it has always been their capital).

- Czechs perceive us as kinda backwards and don't have such problem with further EU integration. Who the heck would prefer to do business with Warsaw instead of Berlin?

- Estonia would prefer to stick to the Nordics and form a block with Finland, Sweden etc.

- Hungary doesn't perceive Russia as an imminent threat and is rather hostile towards Ukraine. And they still got large resentiment towards Romania and Slovakia.

- Austria in a political block under Polish leadership? Seriously?

- Croatia response to Intermarium was the most positive but they are small, not very influential and far away.


I don't know much about Latvian, Romanian, Bulgarian, and Slovak response to Intermarium idea.

Btw Polish administration is incapable of leading such a project. It requires not only huge financial resources (which we don't have) and soft power (which we lack, to put it mildly) but also deeper understanding of potential member states' conflicting interests, often bad relations between them, different mindsets and viewpoints etc. Such knowledge is almost nonexistent within our political class.

[bluecat]

As a Lithuanian I can say that I have yet to find a Lithuanian who would be "comfortable to be under Polish hegemony"