The Pope Said What Now!?

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intelligence and civility., rather than emotion and anger.

Freedom of Speech Clarification

Just for clarity, I'm not trying to cancel anyone or take anyone's freedom of speech away. That's not the point of this critique. I've always been a strong proponent and defender of freedom of speech. And have been very vocal about it. I'm in fact using my own freedom of speech to express my opinions on this matter. I don't think any man no matter who they are, is above criticism nor any action or word spoken by any man is above public discourse.

A recent news coming from Italy, it seems like the pope has used a specific Italian slur in one of his meetings with 250 bishops while discussing the topic of homosexuality within the priesthood. I'd like to offer not only my expertise as a native Italian speaker to see how bad of a word he used, but also to share my thoughts on this topic as a Christian man myself.

From the article by NICOLE WINFIELD
Updated 1:24 PM CDT, May 28, 2024

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis apologized Tuesday after he was quoted using a vulgar and derogatory term about gay men to reaffirm the Catholic Church’s ban on gay priests.

The ruckus that ensued underscored how the church’s official teaching about homosexuality often bumps up against the unacknowledged reality that there are plenty of gay men in the priesthood, and plenty of LGBTQ+ Catholics who want to be fully part of the life and sacraments of the church.

Vatican spokesman Matteo Bruni issued a statement acknowledging the media storm that erupted about Francis’ comments, which were delivered behind closed doors to Italian bishops on May 20.

Italian media on Monday had quoted unnamed Italian bishops in reporting that Francis jokingly used the term “fa**otness” while speaking in Italian during the encounter. He had used the term in reaffirming the Vatican’s ban on allowing gay men to enter seminaries and be ordained priests.

What do you think of this extract from this article? Do you think the coverage is fair or not? Let me know in the comments!

#popefrancis #metatron #lgbtq

[metatronyt]

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[Ariverfish]

You can take a man out of Buenos Aires, but can't take the Buenos Aires out of a man.

[Kuraimizu]

Let's consider that the Pope is Argentinian... And every Argentinian speaks with 95% of slurs on a day to day basis.

[seymourfields]

This is when the Pope should have looked at everybody in that meeting and ask, "Okay, which of you is leaking private conversations?"

[marcelogonzalez]

As an Argentine I'm 90% sure he was not aware of the vulgarity of the word and he was probably thinking in "argentine" and translating to the nearest word he could think of which just happened to be that one, not really realizing how Italians view that word.

[____________]

I’ve got the feeling that the Pope wasn’t complaining about gays coming into the Church and swearing celibacy… So much as he was saying there was too much “buggery” in the seminary.

[AFVEH]

In defense of Pope Francis, when he said the "punching the guy who insulted your mom thing, " he said that that reaction is normal, he didn't say it was good or right to react like that but that it was a normal reaction.

[therealnotanerd_account]

The issue is, will the gay priest preach that homosexuality is a sin?

[kytoaltoky]

Honestly, 'frociaggine' sounds like a lovely dairy-based dessert that will soon appear on the Olive Garden menu seasonally

[RickyD]

Imagine 44 million Spanish speaking Italians all waving their hands and cursing like R Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket and you get an idea of the place

[kueapel]

Oh, it does matter. In fact, one of the reason why monk and nuns are not exactly intermingling so freely in churches is to avoid temptations. We are human being, and we are just trying our best to barely avoid "sin".

Now imagine being a gay man, surrounded by men. It's like putting a monk into a group of nuns, which we do not do anyway.

[rdelaborde]

When I was a catholic we had a priest whose first language was isiZulu, not English. He would occasionally drop vulgarities when preaching

[gabagandalfoftheweed]

The question was never about people who are secretely gay from what I understand.
It was about people who openly live their sexuality, which conflicts with the chaste and celibate lifestyle you'd expect from priests.

[Username]

In all fairness, it was a Vatican CoD lobby. Someone has to put trash talking cardinals in their place.

[jarrodneal]

Celibacy is more achievable when you’re not cloistered with people you may find sexually attractive. Men and women have been separated for many centuries in Catholic monastic communities and seminaries. Temptation is avoidable during spiritual formation. For gay seminarians, the problem is unfixable.

[fuselpeter]

The Pope didn't say he would punch someone in the face that insults his mum, he said the guy insulting her should expect to get hit and yes that's a totally normal thing to say. Everyone should be aware that something like that could be the consequence of insulting somebody, but that doesn't make hitting someone right.

[Naptosis]

I can't believe the Pope is a certified gamer!

[franciscovieiradebem]

Hello, Metraton. I guess the problem the pope tried to address isn't gay people entering seminary, but gay people keeping gay practices inside the seminary.

[Alfans-Imperator]

MAPS is the cutest little euphemism for the worst crime against humanity.

[pv]

Unrelated to this I had not heard about your mother having died back in April. Please accept my sincere condolences for your loss. I hope the happy memories of your mother provide you hope and inspiration for your future endeavors. Here's to wishing you and your family all the best. Cheers, Mate!