Free Will vs. Determinism | Joe Rogan & Stephen C. Meyer

Rogan interviews renowned philosopher Stephen C. Meyer, an advocate of intelligent design, to explore the theological concept of free will and confront the existence of evil. Delve into the argument that God created humans with free will, knowing the risks involved, and examine the counterpoint of determinism. Credits to @joerogan #God #freewill #determinism #StephenMeyer #intelligentdesign #joeroganinterviews

[kayhudson]

“And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭1‬-‭3‬ ‭

“This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind, having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4‬:‭17‬-‭18‬

[lansicus]

Two brothers grew up in a household with smoking parents. One says I’ll never do that because of how we lived. The other says of course I do this, it’s how we’ve always lived.

[OICU]

Turn the music up a bit, because I can still sort of hear what they're saying.

[toddkennedy]

Well I don’t think I agree with you on that. Now I never went to jail / prison till if was 26 and I was sentenced 5 years for basically armed robbery of 225, 000$ worth of gold and diamond rings. I was not stoned at all and did it for purely the money. I had been in court dozens of times previously to my losing the biggest case I had faced. As I’m doing this 5year sentence, at 2 years into it and one of my closest friends/brothers died in a car accident. So I knew they would never let me go to the funeral, thus I forged a pass to be taken out with an escort for a few hours. I used liquid paper on my old pass that I now have had taken away. I am a good student of the art of Bullshit, and I got free. Then after a crime spree that lasted 2 months I was arrested for attempted murder on police officers, high speed chase, attempted robbery and other charges that went along with that event. I ended up getting 7 years added onto the 5, I was doing. So after I finally got paroled at 10-1/2 years in on the 12 year sentence I made the decision to never go down that path again. Now I was raised with love, no abuse, not a lot money but we never went without. Mom never drank, no drugs at all. My father died when I was 4 from a drug overdose. I was too young to remember that, he had just been released from prison a few months earlier. So I wanted money and all my crimes were about money. Sold so much B.C.bud it was hard not to be happy .
The program in prison that changed my life was called the Violent Offender Program. It was 10 months long and u moved to a different prison, the first floor was One Flew Over the Cuckoo Nest for real. Total wack jobs and just dudes too much cheese slipped off their crackers.
Upstairs was prison. We were watched like a hawk watches its food before he kills it. I was fine with that and changed my life for real and forever. Now after this F*cking novel it’s more like some are just messed up so young they can’t process the pain and shame so they do shit to make some money or to get sent back to prison where they are fed 3 times a day, they have a little job that gives them 50-60$ every 2 weeks to spend of stuff.
It’s a lot more complicated than that but I think I can say some of us that made the jump from convict to citizen are the ones who are grateful for the new life they now have.

[DustinTerrell-pu]

I'm so thankful the real ones are waking up. Bless you Rogan your favored

[joelgriffin]

So we don't have complete freewill. There are some things we can control, and some things we can't

[JohnMartin-gguj]

Background is a factor, but choosing to do what's right is always within someone's ability.

[shawnfrey]

I was beat, abused, neglected and impoverished from my first memory until I was 17 and started to stick up for myself. I made the decisions to not become a criminal or a drug addict, that is 100% free will. What isn't/wasn't my free will, is the mental issues that the trauma created. It is a struggle everyday, and I'm almost 40.

[upgrade]

Lesson 1 ) don’t be Reactive 2) control the things you can, “yourself” otherwise you hand the remote control to your feelings / actions to everyone else who don’t deserve that much power…

[charleswade]

Many times it comes down to being a product of there environment. But we are still human beings with brains . Our tramas do not dictate who we are . Education can change any troubled soul.

[ithertz]

In order to change something whether you chose to change or not is determined by your past and traumas free will on the hand is an expression of ones overcomed obstacle.

[Unfrozencarpenter]

Let's reverse the scenario: A person with a great life, well educated, great parents, taught to care for others, etc.. abuses a person who has had an extremely difficult life. Zero responsiblty for their actions? Just a product of their environment? Bad set of genes? Treat the abuser and the abused exactly the same?

[JoAnnThomas-jw]

After extreme abuse and trauma
comes drugs and/alcohol……then comes crime ……then back to never ending cycle…..rehab can help heal the body mind and spirit to end this horrible cycle. ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️❤️✝️

[NahimanaBorghese]

Free will to believe or not to believe

[wtalkie]

Many people has the same horrible background and yet choose not to engage in criminal activities. So the horrible background doesn't mean criminality is deterministic.

[DustinTerrell-pu]

Yes we're free to choose but if we're stuck in the same environment for life almost it becomes inescapable

[calebmantle]

If you have any control over your decisions, you have full control. Free will is not a scalable variable, it either is or isn’t.

[Chaos]

Everyone saying you have free will to chose don’t know shit about the human condition and the human mind. If you were raised in trauma and crime it’s all you know. It’s just normal to you. You don’t even know another way. It’s not as easy as just choosing not to behave the only way you’ve ever known. I agree that everyone can heal and change. I’m proof of that. I was a hard core addict for 25 years, 4 years clean. I come from a traumatic childhood. I didn’t even know what was wrong with me and why I was so angry and violent. It was in my genes. Once I hit real rock bottom where it was get clean or die I went to residential treatment for addiction. Spent a year of my life doing that. Relapse and go back a couple times. But there were therapists and psychologists and experts in the field of trauma and addiction. And people who truly cared about me. And a bunch of others just like me all fighting the same fight. We cared about each other. I learned what was wrong. I dealt with my trauma because addiction is a coping mechanism for trauma. I had to learn these things, I didn’t know this before. It took me until I was 44 years old to finally become who I am meant to be, myself. So you don’t just chose. That’s ridiculous. There are so many factors in between. Many can never overcome their trauma and pain. They are just so broken that they’d prefer death. I wish them healing and love too. But it don’t happen that easy. The success rate to get off that needle is extremely low for a reason. Anyone who has never been there don’t have a clue. And it’s not something you can explain for anyone to truly get it

[TruthSeeker-]

It’s foolish to argue the existence of free will. Our choices and consequent actions dictate most of what we face in the near future.

[robertsanow]

An egg becomes hard when boiled in water, while a potato becomes soft.
I went through a lot growing up, I'll spare all the details. But I CHOSE to strive to not treat others the way I've been treated. I wouldn't want ANYONE else to be afflicted with the things I had to go through.
Jesus saved my life. And He's making me into the person I always wanted to be.
Jesus Christ is Lord and the Truth. Open yourself to Him with a repented heart and, my God, He will set you free!