Correcting a Priest on the Sin of Sodom | The Michael Lofton Show

Correcting a Priest on the Sin of Sodom | The Michael Lofton Show

Michael Lofton examines several tweets from Fr. Joseph Satish, pastor of St. Helen's Parish in Dayton, Ohio on the nature of the sin of Sodom, which he attributes to inhospitality. He offers a filial correction to the priest in light of Jude 1:7.

00:00 Introduction
1:08 Fr. Joseph Satish on the sin of Sodom
2:07 Homophobia in Catholicism?
4:28 What is the sin of Sodom per Scripture?
11:14 Romans 1 on Homosexuality
12:50 Fr. Joseph should correct himself
14:19 The mistake of the Anglicans
15:03 A warning about harassment

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[deathshead]

I appreciate your charitable correction of one of our priests who misunderstands Church teaching. Im praying for him and for Holy Mother Church.

[BeauBeckwith]

One of my favorite things about your work that sets it apart from many other Catholic public personalities is your dedication to good exegesis of Sacred Scripture. Keep up the good work.

[vinb]

Absolutely spot on Michael. I’m a Catholic with a tremendous love for what is revealed to us in sacred scripture.
If you are correct about how this priest views scripture, than he is as guilty as many who interpret scripture. They pick and choose what verses suit “their”own personal views. That is an absolute no no.
That is same mistake that Protestants often make.

[anastasiataitotusa]

You are .RIGHT and THANK you for bringing this to the priest knowledge. Pray he listens and hears it. GOD BLESS

[enthusiasticforchrist]

Im so glad jesus came and convicted me of my same sex attraction, in the middle of this unnatural sodomite behaviour. He woke me up and i had to pray for forgiveness. I am now celibate and want to stay celibate and single with christ on this narrow path. I couldnt see for seeing because Satan had his claws in me. However i see and accept my error and have been forgiven, although it took me ages to forgive myself. Im joyful in my life on christ and carry on trying to walk in spiritual strength. And rebuke lies against Gods word in jesus name.

[charlesaryan]

The question we must ask is the following: does Father know the teaching of the Catholic Church on the morality of homosexual acts? It would seem so, especially given the fact that he was formed as a priest and has the acronym "PhD" after his name. Thus it would seem that he knows that what he teaches is contrary to constant ordinary magisterium teaching in this matter. One can conclude then that he exhibits more than an abuse of authrority at the level of intellect.

[apostolicapologetics]

The word homophobic seems to be an abuse of the language. It is an attack against the man in order to hide the immorality of the sin. We should shun immorality.

[summersloth]

I am very surprised that he grew up in my syro-malabar arch-eparchy of Changanacherry, India. But generally people here have very orthodox views about this sin here.

[jeffreyjourdonais]

Correction should come from his Bishop

[abbyb]

Sounds like another of the wolves in sheeps' clothing we were warned about in the Gospels. It feels like we are getting them from both sides these days.

[americanwoodsman]

Can anyone name a corporate business, or a club, or even a friendly card game where you can go in and randomly change the rules for your own personal benefit and not get reprimanded, (or worse)? Since that's the standard in the secular world, then why aren't our clergy being held accountable for defying the divine truths of our Catholic faith especially when souls are at stake?
Doesn't the hierarchy of the Church realize that their inaction only adds to the confusion that we see today?

[flameofthewest]

That priest is just wrong. What he is inadvertently saying is that is ok to sexually abuse guests as long as the hosts were "hospitable". He doesn't seem to realize that one doesn't preclude the other.

[timrichardson]

I think one thing that may help the understanding of some is better explaining sin. "Sin" has a very judgmental and condemning connotation today, like a personal attack. I think it's more helpful to think of it as a matter of fact, the fact that our thoughts and deeds "miss the mark" of God's design for such thoughts and actions. It's not that the emotionally negative connotations to "sin" aren't right. They are. We should be repulsed by sin. The bible uses such language about sin, especially how God feels about it, particularly regarding the ideology of his people. But we are also made in the image of God. As such, we are called to repentance not because WE are gross to God. But because sin isn't worthy of us as those who bare his image. We are made for so much better, and God wills it for us, and offers it to us. To receive God's best for us, we must turn from sin (from everything that falls short of God's perfect will for us).

*To clarify, sin includes the misuse of sexual acts. That is, sexual acts not open to procreation within the context of holy matrimony (between one man and one woman).

[smc]

The pre-Christian Aramaic Targums reiterate what you have said in this video.
First of all, the Targums are a collection of Aramiac Translations of the Hebrew Scriptures which Rabbis expanded with their own notes to train Jews of the pre-Christian era. They are therefore a proto-type of our modern day Study Bibles.

Throughout Sacred Scripture a Divine person known as “The Word” appears IN HUMAN FORM in various places of the Old Testament. He physically fought with Jacob, He LITERALLY walked in the Garden of Eden, He spoke face to face with Moses. In our Bibles, He is called various titles, "Angel of the Lord", even "Lord" sometimes as well as occasionally "The Lord Thy Redeemer" - yet viewing the Targums, especially the "Jerusalem Targum" whenever God makes a physical appearance on earth He is also called "The Word" or "The Word of the Lord"

See Wisdom 18 for a clear example of how the old Testament retains a clear reference to Christ's pre-incarnate title of "The Word of the Lord"

"[14] For while all things were in quiet silence, and the night was in the midst of her course, [15] THY ALMIGHTY WORD leapt down from Heaven from Thy Royal Throne, as a fierce conqueror into the midst of the land of destruction."

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, THE WORD, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

Revelation 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is THE WORD of God.


Christ was "The Word whom became Flesh" as St John says in the Gospel of St John Chapter One

Genesis 19:24 is known to refer to two "Lords'" The early Church viewed the three who visited Abraham as being all 3 members of the Holy Trinity. St Augustine did an apologia making reference to the fact. That it was indeed the Holy Trinity is clarified by Christ when He states in John's Gospel "Before Abraham was I AM!" I AM being the Name given Moses to identify the God who spoke from within the Burning Bush. It is standard Orthodox belief to this day that all Three members of the Holy Trinity visited Abraham one being "The Word" or pre-Incarnate Christ


Genesis 19:24 in most standard Bibles reads

" Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens." Historically this confirms that The Lord (The Word/Christ (remaining on earth with Abraham ) rained down sulphur from THE LORD (The Father) who had returned to Heaven.

What can be seen in the expanded pre-Christian Aramaic Targum is that the word "Gomorrah" is written as "Amorah" The Jewish Historians who wrote the Bible often renamed people, places etc... to best describe who they were, or what they had done. eg King Saul's REAL name according to the Amarna Tablets was not "Saul" that was just a way of recalling him. His actual name was apparently King "Labyru" or "Labiru" Yet Scripture names him "Saul" the name means "asked for" For, (as Simon is renamed "Peter" ) Labyru is renamed "Saul" by the Bible writers to define whom he was. The children of Israel had asked for Yahweh to provide them with a King to reign over them. He is now known as "Saul" but evidently his REAL name was "Labyru" (This information was provided by Biblical Archeologist David Rohl)

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When it comes to Sodom and Gomorrah (or Amorah) The Jewish Historian wrote or rather renamed the punished town as "Sodom" because Sodomy was what it was known for. The other town called "Gomorrah" in our Bibles, yet recalled as "Amorah" in the Targums, was chastised by Yahweh for being "Amoral"

Whilst some interpret the mention of two "Lords'" in Genesis 19:24 as a mistake, it is not. It refers to two individual "Lords'. That reference is just one of the many references to the fact that Yahweh is a Triune God. Zechariah 12:10 bears witness to the Father and Son relationship - though there are many other examples when 2 or more members of the Holy Trinity speak together in one Bible passage. (researching "The Trinity in the Old Testament) will provide hundreds of clear examples)

In the Jerusalem version of the Aramaic Targum - the identity of the FIRST Lord in Genesis 19:24 is stated as being the pre-Incarnate Christ. ie The WORD.

JERUSALEM TARGUM OF GENESIS 19:24 And "the Word of the Lord" Himself had made to descend upon the people of Sedom and Amorah showers of favour, that they might work repentance from their wicked works. But when they saw the showers of favour, they said, "So, our wicked works are not manifest before Him." He turned (then), and caused to descend upon them bitumen and fire from before the Lord from the Heavens.

The Word of the Lord is shown in the Targums


Finally, The students of the 12 Disciples wrote epistles, letters etc.. they are collectively known as "The Early Church Fathers" or more specifically "The APOSTOLIC Fathers" They are known historically to be real people who knew the 12 Disciples. People such as Justin Martyr, Polycarp, Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch. Another, named Ireneaus knew Justin Martyr who was trained by St John. .All these Disciples are called Saints in the Roman Catholic Church as they underwent Martyrdom and died in Communion with Christ.
Here are their statements on Christ's pre-existence in the Old Testament as "The Word" who became Flesh.

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[chasnikisher]

It's not for me to see on Twitter, I have been blocked

[TheChurchofBreadandCheese]

Thanks for the video, anyone who disagrees with another persons choices is straight away called "Homo/XYZ phobic". No one is irrationally afraid of people who have relations with the same gender, we are afraid for their souls. I wouldn't disrespect God or the other person in changing what God has revealed to make them feel okay in their sin, if I commit the sin of detraction and it's mortal I wouldn't want somebody to say "don't worry just a bit of fun eh?" no tell me I need to stop and go confess.

[JonWRowe]

Inhospitality is a dumb word for attempted gang rape. Attempted gang rape is not the same thing as consensual homosexuality.

I'm not going to argue that the Bible teaches homosexual acts are kosher. Rather, don't strawman the inhospitality point, which as noted is a dumb word to use for the story. It doesn't seem to be about what we think of as ordinary homosexual acts today. If a gay celebrity aggressively gropes someone in an unwelcomed manner (Kevin Spacey et al.) they get nailed for it according to today's pro-gay rules.

[kathrynoneill]

Well, I'm guessing he might be gay.