Asmongold Reacts to 'It Gets Better After 100 HOURS...' | By Josh Strife Hayes

Asmongold watches a video by Josh Strife Hayes, who discusses about games and particularly MMOs that might have a slow start but which eventually get good. Final Fantasy XIV, World of Warcraft, Warframe and many other games & MMORPGs take time before the story starts ramping up or the player can reach the End Game. Is this a fault of the game itself? Asmongold discusses...

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[StarboyXL]

If you don't like Asmongold, just watch 100 hours of his streams, it gets good then.

[jonowang]

"I find 100 hours of free time everyday"
-Asmongold, the slightly above average gamer

[bellystraw]

Just started watching Josh Strife Hayes the other day, I don't play too many MMO's but this dude makes great points on just game design in general. A bunch of what he says can also be implemented into Open world games

[Ramen-msxn]

I went into FFXIV with the expectation of "I'll put 5 hours into it and see if it hooks"
I ended up playing the game the entire day, looking forward to the next story bit. by the end of the day I was still unsure, telling myself "I guess it was ok"... I ended up coming back the day after... and after, after and now I have 800 hours c:

[deathbower]

"Play this game every waking moment for the next third of a year and you might start having fun" - Bro, you just described WoW design from 8.0 to the current day.

[spaceburger]

“I quit Skyrim… on the wagon ride. I said bitch, this shits takin’ too long.”


I nearly spit my coffee all over my wife 🤣

[tarastargaze]

Personally, I think a game that gets better later on is fine. However, the game also needs to be good enough to play early on to allow the player to enjoy the game enough to get to that '100 hours in'.

[KategariYami]

Warframe's new player experience has always been a point of contention even among the vets, we've always been asking DE to do something about it and whilst they've done a handful of things, it's still very barebones.

[Ruzland]

Josh Strife Hayes makes exceptionnal content. He is funny, engaging, analytical and sees every single issue in every game.

[EbonMaster]

To summarize, a game should not "get good" after 100 hours, it should start good get BETTER after a hundred hours.

[evanpage]

EVE Online players: "Just play the first 1, 000 hours it will get good."

[dysae]

Warframe players have been constantly hounding the developers to improve the new player experience. I knew what Josh was going to say watching his warframe video.

[CordovanSplotchVT]

Warframe's problem is that what they've revamped in the new player experience is the first hour to 1½ hours, making it prettier mostly.
But after that 1½ hours the game just drops the player into a gigantic M.C. Escher painting and tells you to just do whatever you feel like, which just results in so much confusion that most people back away and don't bother.
The second problem is that the main storyline with cinematic quests doesn't really start again until 50-100 hours later, the reason for which is that this story wasn't added to the game until a few years after release and the devs wanted the story quests to be rewarding and engaging for the old players at the time who had already gotten to, what was at the time, the late game.
They just never filled out the huge expanse leading up to the beginning point of the main story with similar engaging cinematic questlines, so most people never get to experience that stuff and unlock the actual character creator.

[complexdevice]

Peak Warframe for me was like 300hrs in. Knew enough to get my feet wet with endgame systems but hadn't burnt myself out on soul crushing farming loops. after that it just got worse until it was time to move on after a few years playing. New player experience is bad, midgame is fun and where all the content is at. Endgame is just an empty wasteland of fashionframe.

[SICMADE]

"2 hour long game w/ 98 hours of intro crap"
Asmongold: it's just like my stream
Me: 💀

[UltraVast]

Destiny 2 players: "This season gets good after 100 hours!"

[kurtmueller]

1:06 I call this the "finished movie effect": The audience sees the 90 minutes of compressed awesome. The director sees the 2 years of blood sweat and tears that went into it, all the scenes that were cuts, all the scenes that had to be replaced with lesser ones etc... . This leads to the director often having a worse opinion of his own movie that the audience

[zraxxis]

When I was playing Warframe, early on I found myself playing for a couple hours here and there, then I eventually fell in love and was playing a shit load. It did get better, but I never felt it was bad early on, it just got way more addicting later on.

[MsBuchnerd]

Phrase sounds like it belongs with the phrases:

"It gets good in season 3"
"You just have to get through the first 2 books and after that, the series is great!"

I don't know how often people have commented on my review of a book I didn't like that was the first part of a series and tried to tell me that I couldn't say, it was bad, because I had only read the first book. And after that it really gets good. No, I can review this. The first book sucked. And since all these people read the second part, they must have liked it. So no, it won't get better for me.

[biggusriggus]

I remember when I first started ff xiv, there was like 250ish story quests just to reach the patches between arr and heavensward. It definitely felt like it was dragging on in more than a few spots