Aladdin and the King of Thieves - Disneycember

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With Robin Williams back, can this Aladdin sequel get back it's adventurous cred?

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Kinda feels like Doug didnt pay attention to the plot. The reason for why Aladdins dad never went back was because when he did return after several years, his wife had died and his son had disappeared. With his family gone, all he had left was the search for the Hand of Midas. Now its been over 20 years, and the treasure hunt has been his sole focus that whole time, that kind of obsession doesnt just go away. Not to mention his son is an adult now and dont really need him anymore.

Piledriver
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Doug is right in that it is a pride thing, but I don't think the movie was ever confused about that. Cassim said he did come back to be a father but couldn't find his family. One could assume that from here, he only cared about hunting treasure to fill an inner need, not to provide for himself.

Here's the thing. Cassim did care about Aladdin, but it was made pretty clear that he was conning him and only pretending to be a truly caring father during most of the movie. He doesn't even agree to go back with Aladdin, stating he doesn't belong in his world, until Iago convinces him he can use that moment to steal the oracle. It isn't until Aladdin comes back to rescue Cassim at the end that he understands how important Aladdin is to him and truly sees him as his treasure. Despite that Cassim betrayed him and ruined his life, his son still came back.

ShadyDoorags
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Aladdin's father having conflicting desires, behaviors, and motivations is totally realistic. People really are unpredictable and all over the place that way. That is so real life, I can't believe you actually brought that as a criticism.

Cheesesteakfreak
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Aladdin's dad, Cassim, said he DID go back for his family but couldn't find them and assumed that his wife and son were both dead. That's kind of why he was pretty shocked when Aladdin says he's his son and even saves him. As for continuing to go after the treasure, there's an expression called "Old habits die hard" and I don't think years of being a thief looking for this certain treasure is going to end because of finding his son. It's like an addiction, Cassim even says "After this, I go straight" which is what an addict says ALL THE TIME! Aladdin went to this island of treasure to save his dad since he was kidnapped by the villain and the thieves. As for helping him, he knew that his dad wasn't going to stop until he got this treasure (The man even went to get the oracle after Aladdin helped him escape and was distracting the guards for him). It wasn't until he realized what this stupid treasure almost cost him in the end, his son and that's why he got rid of it. So really it isn't a big problem, especially since you forgot that Cassim said WHY he didn't go back! I think this movie is genuinely fantastic and is one of the best Disney sequels!

TheWickedMerman
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Cassim  did go back. but he could not find his wife or son so went back to the 40 thieves. to him they were both dead.

megamike
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I adore that theory that Aladdin made his Father the king of the thieves through that wish about becoming a prince.

alexm
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Anybody agree with me that the villains death scene with that hand was very memorable? It was kinda chilling for me as a kid.

giovanniorellana
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I loved this movie, it was pretty good for a sequel. The songs "There's a Party Here in Agrabah" and "Welcome to the Forty Thieves" are actually memorable.

mbanerjee
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My favorite line from this movie is from Genie after he surrounds the King of Thieves SWAT style and says 'Do not attempt to move or we'll be shooting ourselves'.

eldritchthorne
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Despite its shortcomings, I liked this one as a kid

Achillez
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I actually disagree with you on the motivations, here's why

Aladdins father states that he did come back to Argrabah (don't know how you spell it) but he couldn't find his family, after that I can be assumed that he thought they were dead or something along those lines and he continued to do the one thing he's always known, being a thief, he looks at the Hand of Mightus and sees the one goal that ruined his life but also the one thing keeping him going, he's spent all of Aladdins life looking for it, that's a long time, he's probably obsessed with it at this point.

Then when Aladdin shows up out of the blue and reveals that he is his son, it's understandable that he'd have some conflict, he's lived most of his life believing his son to be dead or at least gone forever and now he's just shown up, sure he's happy but then his son shows his Dad that he's done extremely well for himself,  meaning his whole want to find the hand to provide for his family was pointless, in short he feels like Aladdin didn't need him, and now Aladdin expects him to just give up on his life of crime and become his Dad, I guarantee you he wants too but looking at his sons life he knows he wont be able to adjust, he's been a thief all his life and unlike Aladdin he didn't do it to live, he did it for his family and then carried on after because it was all he had ever known, he is essentially an addict.

Aladdin helping him is just a kid helping his Dad in the hopes that it will fan the flames of his addiction.

I think this movie is a lot better than people make it out to be and a lot deeper too.

jessebrown
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I can't believe critic didn't bring up the "I thought the earth wasn't supposed to move until the honeymoon" joke in the review. Such a wasted opportunity.

disndatunme
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Did you watch the movie Doug? He did go back for his family before he joins the thieves, can't find them in Agrabah, thinks they're dead, so in despair and frustration he joins the 40 thieves and become's obsessed with finding the treasure that WOULD have saved his family. His motivations make total sense.

matthewschlieben
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The code red scene gets me everytime

Do not move or we will be forced to shoot ourselves

TheNorthie
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I'd say one of my favorite of the animated sequels. Biggest problem is animation for me. Plot wise though as far as idea and whatever especially with the father is pretty good.

BubblesZap
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I actually really liked Saluk. I think what made him cool for me is that he had no magical powers like Jafar but was still a force to be reckoned with. I mean he survives falling off a cliff, an encounter with a shark, then takes on the best of the 40 Thieves by himself and convinces them to join him. Plus his death is really fitting; a thief so blinded by greed he got careless and grabbed the golden hand becoming an embodiment of his own greediness. And his voice actor does a great job too, amusingly the same voice as the candle from Beauty and the Beast

IronManx
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" _Effort!_ Honest-to-God _effort!_"

rassilontdavros
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and the genie has his slave bracelets again...for some reason..

Krokodilius
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If I recall, didn't his father make the comment that when he came back to find Aladdin and his mother he wasn't able to locate them? Memory is fuzzy but I recall that coming out.

ProjectMouthwash
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Uh, anyone else think Aladdin's father looks like Doctor Strange?  He has the suave beard, the white streaks in his hair, and even has a cape/cloak-like thing.  LOL, just saying.

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