The Point of Minecraft's AntiP2W Movement

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In this video, zman1064 and TheMisterEpic talk about the purpose of #antip2w

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Great video! Glad we could have a proper discussion about it.

TheMisterEpic

the point is to get the bad goth mommies

TheDuperTrooper

The point is stoping gambling
The next point is ptw is giving people who pay an unfair advantage
The third point is CHILD gambling
Oh and the fourth point is that it's against Mojang's ULA for sever owners to use p2w, gambling (not including child), and guns now. (All I can remember)

jaconwall

I always thought it was obvious, p2w is the act of buying ingame items for the soul reason to progress faster than others.

Gurtopolis

As a victim of these P2W servers, I want to thank you for making this video. I've spent a good 70 dollars on the Loverfella servers and after I started watching these types of griefing P2W servers I saw how foolish and vulnerable I was. Thank you so much for creating awareness and helping people who may be affected by these scammers.

cheezemuffin

My friend owned a Minecraft server called HypeGen that sadly shut down because of someone nuking it. There was no pay to win. You could only buy cosmetics like special particles. Anyway the nuker posted it on YouTube along with a couple other videos of him nuking servers claiming that they are “pay to win” which they weren’t.

Snowy_Drift

The problem is, some of the servers that said they would "change, " go back to the old ways after a few months or years. it doesn't matter if we can change them or should change them, it's if they will keep the changes.

coldReactive

My own opinion on it is that people focus too much on the PAY aspect of pay-to-win, even including absurd examples like Hypixel skyblock for the gems/booster cookies system. I think that the WIN part should decide whether a server is p2w, as my definition of p2w is "A server where content is locked, either directly or via a near unachievable grind, behind a paywall, or where a competitive advantage can be obtained by monetary methods alone." It doesn't include gambling, although it is harmful, due to the possibility of crates being for cosmetics only.
This definition means that skyblock is NOT p2w, as whilst it is inconvenient to be a non, no actual content is impossible to access, nor is the difficulty of accessing that content meaningfully different for a non vs a ranked player.

YappistanPresident

Loving the Discord profile pics in this conversation.

SupersuMC

2:27 And that's the problem with the entire economic system, not just here. You can only do what you want if you already have money.
16:04 You'd need a whole new economic system, and you all know what the US does when anyone tries to do that

vascofernandes

No fucking way he's adressing the:
"ZMAN THIS SERVER P2W
In his discord XD

JankoBroPro

Great vid. Solid discussion of P2W servers. Thank you.

BoylamaykaSazerac

Wow mojang really is a company

They legit took down GTACraft because they had firearms (because bows and crossbows are not firearms apparently) rather than take down ANY p2w server

*Let that sink in*

Also fun fact they legit will take you're server down if you have "blacklisted mods" (aka mods not for babies, because minecraft is a baby game now)

eliescobis

I think servers aren't the only thing, minecraft java in general is being left over.
Yeah, that idea of listing server in multiplayer tab kinda exist in bedrock edition, where they anounce some servers in the actual game.
that's how things seem to be going, while java edition goes more and more to the bottom of pit, the bedrock edition shines more

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