Starcraft vs. Forbidden Stars- which one is for you? comparison

Hi players!
In this video I will try and do a comparison between two titans in the space theme board games: Starcraft the board game and its younger brother Forbidden Stars.
Both of them are considered to be grail games, both of them are out of print, both of them by FFG, both of them have the same main system of order tokens, but I will choose only one of them..
Share your thought with me please! tell me what do you agree with or where am I wrong?

Happy gaming,
Asaf

0:00 Intro
0:27 Starcraft overview
9:51 Forbidden Stars overview
20:15 Setup & learning the game
25:25 Gameplay
31:34 Components
34:20 End game condition
38:14 Combat system
43:06 Play time
45:15 Actual prices
46:10 Player aid
48:04 Event cards
49:33 Balance between factions
51:05 Bottom line- which one?

[AinSoph]

I’ve had Starcraft the Board Game since day 1 back in ‘07. Same with the Brood War expansion in ‘08. Played them and love them. Won’t ever play without Brood War, in fact. It’s too bad Brood War is going for more than Starcraft and Forbidden Stars combined and is probably one of the most valuable expansions ever.
I just picked up Forbidden Stars for dirt cheap, but haven’t had a chance to play it yet. I look forward to playing it, but doubt it’ll replace Starcraft.
Thanks for these videos! There aren’t many out there especially for Starcraft.

[pauls]

Both of these are grail games that are out of print 👍 Thanks for sharing

[Kentchangar]

I'm a big fan of Starcraft the Board game. I haven't played Forbidden Stars because of the dice. But it seems, like in a lot of cases, that some other aspect is even more lucky than the dice themselves.

[Why-Ron]

Great video and great concept!
If it will ever be possible, I'll love to watch :
Dwellings of Eldervale VS. Andromeda's Edge
Chaos in the Old World VS. Cthulhu Wars
Raiders of the North Sea + Fields of Fame exp. + Hall of Heroes exp. VS. Raiders of Scythia
Brass: Birmingham VS. Brass: Lancashire
And the LCG eternal battle:
Marvel Champions VS. Arkham Horror VS Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

Of course I apologize... Obviously it's too much to ask for.

[beldimir]

Love Starcraft, wanted to test forbidden stars, hence my arrival here.. still want to ;) I'm on the west side of Paris ! Where is your hide out ? Troll2 Jeu ;P

[daganisoraan]

And that was Starcraft without Brood War. With Brood War, the game becomes way better with more starting strategies (3 per faction), more units, more technology, more planets, more options.

If I remember correctly, there was a second printing of the rulebook from the core box and the second rulebook was a bit better at explainign rules. And Brood War updated some rules and cards from the core game.

Just sad how crazy second had market prices are for that great game + expansion.

[kirillkrechetnikov]

So, playing FS with 4 is ridiculously long but SC with 5-6 is worth trying? It will take you the whole day similar to what you get with TI in my experience. Actually, my personal preferred player count for FS is 3 exactly because the 4th player makes it 30% longer while not making it 30% more fun. I would not even consider playing either of the games at 5 or 6 as there is not enough of diplomacy there to justify it. But the downtime just becomes colossal.

[Maxtingle]

Haven’t checked the video yet but starcraft by far. If StarCraft is a 10 forbidden stars is an 8 for me. Forbidden is great don’t get me wrong, it’s better for new players, max 8 rounds, 4 different factions (with lots of fan made available). And StarCraft you pretty much need to have played the video game to make it better than FS. I played around 200 games of StarCraft and maybe 20 of forbidden stars. Map placement is insanely punishing in FS which is the main reason why I play less often.