Intel Needs to do Better... and so does AMD - Zen 3 on X370 Boards

Official support for AMD Zen 3 on X370 Boards is HERE. But only on some very select boards...

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MUSIC CREDIT
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Intro: Laszlo - Supernova

Outro: Approaching Nirvana - Sugar High

CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Socket Support
3:19 Future Proof?
5:13 Drawbacks
6:12 BIOS Update
8:11 The Upgrade
10:10 Gaming
11:20 Conclusion
13:18 Outro

[mattpierce]

While we're praising AMD for backwards compatibility, here's a +1 to AM4 coolers keeping the same mounting mechanism as AM3, AM2, 939, and 754. The fact I can mount one of those Wraiths to an AMD motherboard from 2004 is pretty impressive IMO

[Vatharian]

As a reminder:

ASRock has roughly 70 engineers in its team.

They did one and only P4 combo LGA775 / PGA478 board. They gave us nForce 3 board that took everything from first Semprons to Phenom II. They had Kx-Upgrade board, which let us have 754/939/AM on one board. When Intel said LGA1156 and 1155 are incompatible, they shown middle finger and did H67 board that took both. They gave us boards that took DDR1, 2, SATA, IDE, PCI-Express, AGP and everything from first Celeron to Core2 Extreme. They pioneered running 771 Xeons in normal desktop boards. They got SLI running on VIA chipset (blocked by Nvidia at the time). They made effing LGA3647 mini-ITX board...

I will always have respect for ASRock's R&D team.

[Hobbles_]

Goodness I adore how great the AM4 platform is! I went from a 1600X to a 5900X, that kind of upgrade path is just ludicrous!

[MacRantTV]

I upgraded from a 2600x to a 5600x a few months ago in a B450 board. One of the great upgrades I could have made, and despite the 4-5 consecutive BIOS updates I had to do (from version 1, yikes), it was an easy and more than worthwhile change. Hopefully AMD continues this trend with the future generations and sockets.

[tanhuypham]

Kudos to AMD and Asrock for the great platform support. News outlets need to emphasize this in their future reviews.

[cameronbublick]

AMD is taking the "if it fits, I sits" approach. And I like that. 👍

[JJJT-]

My MSI b450 Tomahawk was the best decision in my last build.

Started with a 2600x, then a 3600 and finally a 5800x. The Performance increase in the same Plattform is amazing.

[jesseschultz]

Dr. Lisa Su actually stated that we should expect a similar life span for AM5 as AM4, and that even AM4 will see continued support going forward (probably as a budget socket).

[benjaminoechsli]

12:07 Multiple heads at AMD, including Su herself, have said AM4 was a great platform for consumers, and for them, and they are doing what they can to make AM5 long-lived like 4.

So while they haven't said "we'll use it through 2026!" or anything (yet), I fully expect 4+ generations out of AM5. Here's to a new trend of long-lived sockets from both companies.

[IM]

Super important when doing Bios updates, especially if you also want to do something like ASUS Bios Flashback, Always use a USB 2.0 drive that is 16GB or less. I have an old Kingston DataTraveler 16G drive that I have used for bios updates for got to be nearly 12 years now. It works every time when other drives just fail to work for one reason or another. (Only applies to Bios updates, the drives work great for OS installs and other things so its just unique to the Bios features of various boards).

[b_]

Fun fact: you can run 8 core cpus on some 100 and 200 series intel motherboards, but it requires flashing a modified bios and putting tape over a few pins on the cpu.

[greensleeves]

Longevity of platforms is great for households with multiple computers. It makes upgrading items super easy. It's also great for keeping the landfills free from e-waste that would normally be thrown away.

[Rootnationlife]

ASRock are masters of "You'r not my real dad"-ness. And not always in good way, but always in fun and unexpected way.

First Intel licensed Thunderbolt 3 AM4 motherboard? With Intel cooling bracket? They did it, but TB3 does not work properly with every feature it should.

2 CPU sockets on one motherboard? Yes, ASRock P4 Combo is the stuff, but you must switch working mode by hand with a lot of jumpers.

Up to 16GB of VRAM for APU's on motherboard? Yes, they did it, but it's buggy and did not work with my 5700G.

[arda_]

AM4 being compatible with later generations is one of the big reasons why I went AM4. And it is also why I am waiting for next gen AMD before upgrading my cpu.

[sjorswinkenius]

I love the energy from Linus in this video, this reminded me why I subscribed years ago. Thank you!

[ericdeltoro]

What's funny, I remember there was a thing where someone successfully got a 8700K to work in a Z170 board via a microcode hack. So its technically possible for Intel to do what AMD is doing with compatability.

[nerdom]

Super cool that AMD is being a bro this time around and doing this, but on another note is it just me being cynical or are LTT graphs getting worse of late?

It makes no sense to me why they put the X370 and X570 data on different slides and then put 2 different games on the same slide
Imo it would be easier to read if it was
slide 1: F1 2021 results, X370 data alongside X570 data
slide 2: CSGO results, X370 data by the X570 results

the purpose of the slides isn't to compare F1 performance vs CSGO, so imho if you're going to have 2 slides each slide should show what you are comparing instead of test case 1 on one slide and test case 2 on another

[RandomTheories]

DDR 5
PCI-E 5
AM5
kinda love how it lines up for AMD

[waveformdistortion]

Keeping your computer connected to a UPS is sound advice in general, but it's especially important to have stable, reliable power in the middle of a BIOS flash. Ask me how I know.

[MeisterMitBart]

The Graphs would have been way better side by side (x370 vs x570), also because the differenciating factor was hidden between all the other parts and was not standing out.