On the Ground: Progressive Christianity with Alisa Childers

Kristy Graham sits down with Alisa Childers, a former CCM recording artist and author of "Another Gospel?" Alisa spoke to Samaritan’s Purse country directors and field staff from around the world during our annual International Projects Meeting. She both challenged and encouraged them to share their faith, know the Scripture, and be able to identify counterfeit gospels. In this YouTube exclusive, Kristy and Alisa dive deeper into the topic of progressive Christianity and standing firm in the faith.

[alvin]

Hi everyone, I'm from Indonesia. Just now I was invited from the church to get a present from the samaritan purse, I am very grateful for being given a gift, I hope Lord Jesus bless you good people, I am very happy, always healthy for the samaritan purse organization

[gailsbookishthings]

I just got the Audible version of this and looking forward to listening to it on vacation. Thank you for this book and On The Ground with SP for this interview. 👍🏻💚

[rainriderpnw]

The phrase " progressive " should send up a red flag. Read your Bible every day and hold fast to the Word of life.

[kylekloostra]

I'd be interested to know why Alisa is not ok with people thinking differently than she does. It must be pretty exhausting to continually try to make people think and act as you want them to. Also must be exhausting to go through life with so much condemnation of people., I could imagine that being a hard way to go through life. Hope she finds rest.

[JJ_LL]

You're NOT Christian by rejecting Jesus Christ and all that he is. He is the Savior and he is returning to avenge his people and judge the world.

[davidjames]

100% Jesus died for our sins, and was entombed for 3 days and 3 nights, and was roused on the third day.

And yes, Grace means there's NOTHING you can do to get saved - you can't "believe" your way there neither!

God is conciliated to the world and does not hold any offenses against the world. God is a happy God, not a mad one.

If you think there is a Hell where people go, to which "Hell" do people go?
- Gehenna?
- Hades?
- Tartarus?
- Sheol?

If there is a Hell where sinners are punished with no end in sight, then we can come to one - and ONLY ONE - conclusion which is: God is going to punish sinners for the same sins - repeat: SAME SINS - Jesus died for. Now why would God have the death of Jesus be in vain? Either the Cross of Christ is a finished work or Jesus failed in His mission. As He is successful in His mission, why blaspheme what He did by thinking your belief really means anything? Whether you believe or not doesn't change God's faithfulness to the result of the Cross!

[Syed_]

( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )

Quran 2:62
'' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANY<- who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve.( ie On judgement day )

Note: The idea of “salvation” in Islam is here made conditional upon three elements only: 1) belief in God, 2) belief in the Day of Judgment, 3) righteous action in life.

( According to the Quran Christians and Jews worship TRUE God )

(Quran 3:113-114)
'' Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book (ie Christians and Jews ) are a portion that stand (For the right) They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.''

Note: According to the Quran that Jesus is not God nevertheless Christians still worship one TRUE God.

( >Allah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )

Quran 22:40
[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.

Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?

( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )

Quran 5 48
If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE<''

NOTE:
Quran 3:85
'' If anyone desires a religion other than Islam ( ie "submission" to God ) never will it be accepted of him and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost ( ie entry into Heaven )

My explanation of above verse

The word Islam is a > verb < not noun like other religions

Islam mean "submission" to God

( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God )

Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?

Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.

Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )

The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by Good Deeds )

God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him.

( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )

Quran 5:5
''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And lawful in marriage are chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''

Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundreds<) years ago. Today even Sunni Muslim and Shia Muslim do NOT marry each-other. ( Shame )

( Muslim, Christian, Jew And All The Other Human Being Worship The '' Same God '' With Their Own Ancestral-Inherent Understand of God )

Quran 29:46
'' And do not argue with Christian and Jew except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you.>>And our God and your God is one<< and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

Note: God is God of all- every humans not just Abrahimic faiths. It will be a shirk to set up a God for others. God answered prayed regardless of anyone religion.

All the world MAJOR religions came from >Same God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion.

Question to Muslim and Christian:

Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?

And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?

Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?

Quran 5:48
'' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHOD<<< Had Allah willed, He would have made you >>one nation<< [ ie single religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah-God is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to >>differ<<.''

Note: Judaism, Christianity and other religion are valid path to God.

( Allah says to Jew to follow Old Testament 'NOT' The Quran and not to follow the Prophet Muhammad)

( Allah says ) Quran 5:43 '' And how do they ( ie Jew ) make you ( ie Muhammad ) a > Judge < while they have the Old Testament wherein is Allah's judgement

What is The '''' Quranic '''' Ruling Regarding The Fate of Non Muslims?

Quran 4:123
'' Paradise is not [obtained] by your ==>( ie Muslim) wishful thinking > NOR < by that of the People of the Scripture ( ie Christian and Jew ) Whoever does a wrong will be recompensed for it, and he will not find besides God a protector or a helper.

Question to Sunni Muslim:

Do you believe only Muslim go to Heaven and which Sunni sect of Muslim go to heaven? { There are many Sunni Muslim sects } Hanafi? Shafi? Hanbali? Maliki? Salafi? Sufi ? etc?

Did Allah chooses you to be born in Muslim family or it was your choice ?

Did non-Muslim chose to be born in non-Muslim family ?

Muslim you are going to heaven NOT because you chose Islam to be your religion BUT because you born in Muslim family.... correct ?

Non-Muslim will go to hellfire because they born in non-Muslim family.... correct?

It is fair for non-Muslim to find truth outside their religion to go to Heaven while you don't ?

( You '' MUST '' know how to become > qualified < for to enter Paradise )

On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.

'' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.

'' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.

The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work <.

Quran 41;30
''Surely those who say, “ Our Lord is God ” and then remain steadfast, the angels descend upon them saying Do not fear nor grieve. Rather, rejoice in the good news of Paradise, which you have been promised''

Note: On the day of judgement Angels will gives good news of Paradise to those who did good deeds to '' CALM '' you down so you do not panic.

In the sight of Allah Atheist and non-Muslim are equal in deeds?

( Atheist In The Quran )

Quran 25:44
'' Or do you think that most of them hear or reason? They are not except like livestock. Rather, they are [even] more astray in [their] way.''

( Christians In The Quran )

Quran 5:82
you will find the nearest in love to the believers (ie Muslims) those who say: " We are Christians " That is because amongst them are priests and monks and they do not behave proudly ''

Christians, Atheists, Rapists, Killers and Shia-Muslim destined to HELLFIRE all together ?

Ethiopian's Christian King Najashi who ''SAVED'' early Muslims lives will he go to hell?

Abu Talib who protected the Prophet of Allah will he go to hell?

Abu Lahab, Pharaoh, Satan and Prophet Muhammad's beloved mother Aminah, will be in HELLfire... correct ?

Explain to me why does Prophet's mother DESERVED Hellfire? she died BEFORE her son's Prophet-hood.

I am 100% SURE if Prophet's mother lives to see her son Prophet-hood she would have accepted Islam.

Your mother will enter Heaven and your Prophet's mother will enter HellFire.

My final conclusion:

The '' BASIC '' message of God to the human is that '' YOU '' believe in God and be kind to other human beings / ANIMALS and in the RETURNED God will reward you with a new life in Paradise.

* The Quran ONLY guides you how to become a good human being "Nothing Else".

* You are a good human being or a bad human being that is YOUR choice.

* No one can force you to become a good human being.

* You MUST work HARD to become a good human being.

* Why should ''YOU'' do good deeds and avoid bad deeds?

* Do Good - it's for You. Do Bad - It's against you.

* '' YOUR'' life is a TEST from God that you will choose to do either Good or Bad.

* Find the excuse to help others and forgive others NOT the other way around.

* '' YOUR '' final destination is either Hell or Heaven.

* So work HARD toward choice of YOUR destination.

Quran 17:7
" If you do good, you will do so for your own good. And if you do evil, it will be to your own loss."
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