The New Pride | Peter Boghossian & Andrew Doyle

“Is the trans movement anti-gay?” In honor of Pride Month, Peter Boghossian begins this conversation with an investigation into the increasing rejection of trans ideology by the LGB (without the T) community. Peter’s guest is Andrew Doyle, acclaimed author, comedian, and host of Free Speech Nation on GB News. Here’s an important piece of information to better understand this conversation: Andrew is gay.

Andrew explains the impact the trans movement has inflicted on gay people over the last several years, including the rise of abusive language toward gays he “hasn’t seen since the ‘80s." Lesbians are labelled “sexual racists” or “transphobes” if they reject trans women as partners. (The same is true for gay men rejecting trans men—that is, women—but the abuse is not as pervasive.) Peter and Andrew discuss the incoherence of gender ideology, the nature of sexual attraction, how predators manipulate gender self-ID, and the sterilization of gay youth.

Also discussed: Bad woke art, sensitivity readers, primary education, censorship, standpoint epistemology, critical thinking, the long history of human fantasy and folly, and more.

Andrew Doyle is a journalist, playwright, satirist, and comedian. He is the creator of Titania McGrath, “a radical intersectionalist poet committed to feminism, social justice and armed peaceful protest.” He is the host of Free Speech Nation and an unabashed lover of art and literature.

Andrew Doyle's Twitter: @andrewdoyle_com
Titania McGrath's Twitter: @TitaniaMcGrath

Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:50 Is the trans movement anti-gay?
25:00 Lack of reason in LGBT activism
43:20 Science vs Pseudoscience
54:00 Offense & thought crime
59:35 Breaking the echo chambers of woke ideologies
1:02:40 Indoctrination in education
1:21:50 Effects from social problems in America

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[ethanmoody]

As a gay man, it makes me happy that there are people like Andrew Doyle and Douglas Murray. Good role models.

"you're not attracted to how someone perceives themselves" -- very well put; gets to the heart of the matter

[ThePresident]

Im a gay man, and this idea of trans activism being anti-gay is really mindblowing to me. Helen Joyce mentioned it, too, in her discussion with Peter. These discussions are so very engaging, Peter. Please keep doing them!

[leighrevers]

This is Peter’s very best work: Andrew is superb, and the whole conversation is riveting.

[MissBrennan]

I’ve never heard Andrew Doyle and he blew me away!! So ON POINT!!

[tompommerel]

Listening to Boghossian grappling with how to defeat wokeism is understandable, but Doyle's clarity of thought and expression is as masterful as always, especially in his conclusion that of all approaches, it is the Arts that provide the most salient antidote to this totalitarianism.

[carltaylor]

While Doyle is clearly brilliant in articulating these ideas, Boghossian deserves recognition for playing the Everyman and pretending he doesn't already know this stuff. It's a very good way to present these complex issues.

[musicman]

I have been struggling to articulate for a long time a fundamental feeling in my mind that trans ideology has to be based in an extremely conservative/stereotypical notion of male and female roles. How can you be a man thinking you are really a woman or vice versa unless this is founded in some view that a boy or man should behave in one way and enjoy certain things and a girl or woman in another way. I thought these stereotypes were gone or well on the way out 25 years ago when my children were young. It was great to hear Andrew articulate this so clearly, thanks.

[hH-lcto]

As a gay man who's always found gender and trans activism to be disingenuous, I am absolutely blown away by the elocution and clarity with which Mr Doyle has described the phenomenon and its ramifications. The comparison with a cleric who would insist to an atheist that the latter does possess a "soul", much in the same way that a gender activist would insist that an average person does possess a "gender identity", and call that person "cisgendered", is terribly compelling.
I wish to express my gratitude to him and to Mr Boghossian for this brilliant talk!

[shughy]

Andrew and Douglas Murray are two of the most important voices in the culture wars of today, so many truth bombs. Peter and his soft spoken approach is also very effective in forcing angry people to self reflect on their reasoning

[heatherwilliamsbuell]

Here is a different perspective: No one is "trans". Since humans can't change their sex, people who claim they are the opposite sex are making a false claim. The surgeries that doctors are performing on these people are exploiting their patients for profit. It's also a form of medical abuse on a grand scale, for both children, and adults. Just like it wouldn't be ethical for a doctor to amputate someone's limb, even if that person thought their limb belonged to someone else. It's also not ethical to amputate someone's genitals, because someone thinks their genitals are wrong or someone else's. The majority of the people who believe in this ideology, have been gaslit into supporting it, or bullied into it, due the fear of the backlash if you question it.

[AlisonKenny]

These conversations are so critically important, keep having them❤

[Sevish]

Always love Andrew Doyle. What a treasure.

[domm]

I am amazed at the clarity of thought Andrew Doyle shows, along with an amazing talent to articulate those thoughts, conveying rationality and logic. I'd never heard of him before watching this video, but I'm thankful for his existence. We desperately need people like him right now. Intelligent people who are willing to weather the inevitable storm that will come their way for speaking out against this new religious movement and its fanatics.

[AYFKMRN]

Thank you Peter and Andrew for being unafraid to be the loudest voices of sanity in an insane and upside down world.

It’s forever confounding to me that we are where we are, given everything we’ve been through in the last decade, yet here we are.

So many of us, regardless of political ideology, race, sex, religion (or lack thereof) are behind you 100% and applaud your efforts. They can paint us however they wish- from Nasi, raciss, bigo+, terfs, etc., we’re growing louder and stronger.

Thank you. Thank the heavens above for people like you that stand up for people like us.

[MCP_Blackout]

Fantastic conversation!
I usually don't like to comment something so banal, but I really mean it, I loved every second of it and it actually gave me some hope for our future (which is an extremely rare thing for me), great job.

[spiritof]

Andrew Doyle is one of the clearest, most well-spoken people I've ever seen speak on this issue (and I have certainly enjoyed Peter's contributions! But Andrew is just dazzling.). As soon as I finished this clip a few hours ago I went and bought the kindle of his book "The New Puritans" and am already nearly 100 pages in; I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for a picture-perfect summation and analysis of the social justice/woke movement.

[Melanie_Star]

I have so much respect for Andrew & indeed all those who are branded as the so called "anti-woke" voices, who've been repeatedly attacked for simply questioning the progressive activists narratives & speaking out.
I've followed Andrew for many years here in the UK & I'm so glad for his presence. I'm fairly new to Peter's channel, but it's fast become one of my favourites on YT. Seeing these two men together is truly a treat & a discussion that all should listen to; in this confusing, worrying & absolutely fascinating time in Western history.

Thank you for having these vital conversations!
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[nickgoesvestmode]

I have watched Andrew on many channels and interviews. This is one of the best. He really nailed things to where I had to rewind and listen again. Great stuff.

[baustin]

Dude, Andrew Doyle is always a win. I wish you guys could lay off the conservatives and Christians, or at least differentiate between us (I know there are nuts, there always are). I'm conservative and Christian, my family whom I love dearly are conservative and Christian, I hugely appreciate you both - and it hurts to hear you lump us in with the crazies.
Either way, the conversation was wonderful and gives me hope. Keep up the great work