Slavery and Islam with Dr Jonathan Brown

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*Slavery and Islam with Dr Jonathan Brown*
( abridged timestamps )

0:00:02 Introduction : Welcoming, and introducing Dr Jonathan Brown, and his books
0:01:37 Dr Brown defines "slavery" [[ there is no agreed upon definition of slavery ]]
0:12:03 Two broad historical approaches to define slavery - legal, and social
0:21:16 Distinction between regular, and slavery coercion
0:24:48 Intendent servants were slaves acc to modern day slavery
0:32:48 Slavery conundrum
0:37:00 Paradoxical three axioms
0:42:32 Prior to 1700, slavery was not deemed wrong acc to any religious, philosophical, and intellectual tradition
0:45:03 Moral awakening narrative
0:47:01 Slavery is nowhere condemned in the Bible
0:49:29 Problems with the argument of many modern Christians / liberal theologians / progressive Muslims
0:51:51 How to resolve
0:54:58 Prior to the 1800s, no society actually even proposed to abolish slavery as institution
0:59:10 Morality is just custom as long as it is permitted by the Sharī'ah
1:04:28 ....and thus Islam removes the slavery conundrum
1:08:04 The vio#lence of the transatlantic slave-trade was without precedent
1:10:15 There is no plantation slavery in Islamic civilisation
1:13:41 Abolition of slavery in Islam
1:14:22 Islamic teachings on slavery
1:20:43 Unprecedented emphasis on emancipation by the Qur'an, and Sunnah of Prophet (saws)
1:22:17 Reason why the Qur'an has not abolished slavery at once
1:25:12 Muslim arguments on abolition of slavery
1:32:30 Thanking Dr Jonathan Brown, recommending his book _Slavery and Islam_, and future plan for stream on "concubinage issue"

[AhmadOsamaMusleh]

This was inspirational. Thanks a lot!
As an Arab Muslim, it is insightful to me to listen to Islamic issues being discussed by people from different (i.e., non-Arab) cultural background. Here, for example, your Western background enabled you to discuss the morality of the US Founders & the UN agreements in your introduction. These are sides of which I am not so aware, but yet they affect our collective morality standards due to the globalization. That is why we need Muslims from all over the world to participate in such main issues.
Thank you again; it was informative.

[ariyoabiona]

This has been a very eye opening lecture. My perception about morality, not just slavery, has just been changed. I look at history differently now. Wow.

[damienducoint]

Sura 2 Al Baqara verse 177 "Pious kindness does not consist in turning your faces towards the East or the West. But godly kindness is to believe in Allah, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book and the Prophets, to give of one's wealth, however much one loves it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, destitute travellers and those who ask for help, and to *untie yokes, * to perform Salat and pay Zakat. And those who fulfil their pledges when they have pledged themselves, those who endure hardship and sickness and when fighting rages, these are the truthful and these are the truly pious!"

untying yokes = freeing slaves

[MohamedShou]

I just recently bought Slavery and Islam 3 days ago on Kindle and Subhanallah this comes in my notifications. How lovely thanks Paul and Dr Jonathan Brown 👍🏾😁

[AlbaTar]

Dr.Brown is genious. Thank you Mr.Williams for this most excellent discussion.

[kfie]

Paul we want another podcast with Brown. This was excellent and just perfection. keep doing the great work.

[norama]

مُريح جدّا عندما أستمع لمسلمين جدد يتحدّثون اللغة العربية الجميلة بطلاقة ..Mr Jonathan Brown من هؤلاء ..بسم الله تبارك الله

[odeebob]

As usual, Paul’s channel has a great topic and a wonderful guest. May Allah increase us in the knowledge of His deen.

[AbidNasim]

May I propose the following agenda for our next discussion:

1) Focus the conversation on slavery in Arabia during the time of the Quran's revelation.
2) Origins of slavery: Thesis — Slaves were primarily prisoners of war (POWs) from defeated aggressor tribes.
3) Islam's approach to addressing slavery: POWs could no longer be enslaved; freeing slaves is an expiation for sins; violence against slaves is forbidden; slaves could marry; use of the term 'slave' is prohibited, and Islam introduced self-purchase agreements for slaves.
4) Why didn't Islam abolish slavery immediately? Thesis — The absence of a social welfare system made immediate abolition impractical for the economic integration of slaves.

[anelahamulic]

Thank you for bringing Jonathan back.😊

[harriskhan]

thank you, Brother Paul and Dr brown jazk.

[jrluh]

I reverted not that long ago and for all the moral guidance the Qur'an has that I outright agreed with or at worse came to rationally understand later on, I still couldn't reconcile why it didn't forbade slavery. Just knowing how nuanced the subject matter is it's a huge help to understand that stance. Great video 👍

[ImInYourBrains]

I Jonathan Brown. He is absolutely brilliant. His breakdowns and examples are really really good. And he pushed us to think about things that are important but people take from granted, but all the manipulation and power is in these gaps of meaning kept in darkness.

[saadkeani]

I was so looking forward to this colab.

[MShafarinGhaniComposer]

what a discussion. thanks for sharing and look forward the next session.

[irfanahmed]

Dear brother Paul Allah bless you are doing great work on this planet and we love

[SRafiq-nfuk]

Thoroughly enjoyed the discussion. I got this book sometime ago, but haven't been able to read it yet. Need to pick it from the shelf now 🙂

[shukrimoe]

Paul's new glasses MakcomX style looks good on him.

[aaah]

An outstanding guest on an outstanding channel. God bless you both, gentlemen!