Surprising Reason Scientists Haven't Been Able to Clone a Dinosaur (Bird)…Yet

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Cloning always seems to come off as some kind of far-off future science fiction concept. At least, that’s the way it seems to be portrayed in movies and shows. If you read a lot of popular science articles, it seems more like a technology we have and have had for a long time, but the cool stuff we can do with it is always on the horizon or just out of our reach. At the current advancements in cloning technology, basically every mammal on earth has the capacity to be cloned. Those mammals that are usually cloned are those in the livestock industry. It’s mostly for breeding programs and not for meat. As I’ve begun to dip my toes into the wild and complex world of genetics and cloning, I’ve found that there’s one thing that geneticists have yet to figure out. Birds have never been cloned. That seems odd, frogs have been cloned before, flies have been cloned, but a bird has never ever been cloned. Is it even possible to do so?
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What's interesting is I remember in the Jurassic Park novel, Henry Wu saying reptiles and birds would be easier to clone than mammals. I can't recall the reason given in the book, but funny how it's the opposite case in reality.

paulrebstock
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Birds: can't be cloned.
Andean Condor: fine, I'll do it myself *develops parthenogenesis*

noahcreutziger
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This does give some glimmer of hope to animals like the 3 extinct dwarf emu subspecies from Tasmania, King Island and Kangaroo Island. Ecologist have proposed introducing the mainland subspecies to Tasmania to fill the missing ecological niche but I always thought it would be incredible if the original could be revived, even if only partially built from what few genetic remains still exist. They've been gone for about 150 years and always long forgotten in the shadow of more iconic species like the extinct Thylacine.

demetrialowther
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Well that's a very interesting process, first time I heard it. Still wonder if you could use a similar process for dodo birds. But possibly they're too far gone still be cool to see one, maybe I need a time machine.

cinderedrockjf
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"like the sponge animal in a pill" killed me

emmettbattle
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I wonder what prevents female sex cells from being altered to produce the chimeric chicken material; if a way is discovered to alter those as well, then theoretically, could you produce a prairie chicken offspring from two leghorn chickens, without needing a female prairie chicken in the mix? This may potentially solve the issue of resurrecting more recently-extinct avian species that aren't closely related to another currently viable species if it's possible

Without-Rhyme-Or-Reason
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So, Carnosaurs was more "scientific accurated" than Jurassic Park.

tamelo
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This makes me appreciate chickens even more.

lespyguy
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I wonder if/when we crack the code on an artificial placental/uterus combo could we then have the know how to create an artificial ovoduct thing like birds have. Seems like that could be a possibility. Although even then it could be like fission reactors in theory leading to fusion, possible but way harder and farther off

danielmcandrew
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Non-avian reptile reproductive systems are quite similar to birds. So probably no reptile has been cloned either.

Some species like a few skinks have placental mammal like reproduction though. Could it be possible there?

stefanostokatlidis
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So what they did in Carnosaur is more possible than Jurassic Park.

ExtremeMadnessX
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Does that mean it’s impossible to bring back species like the dodo since we don’t have any stem cells from those organisms? Maybe there’s possible alternatives that are to complex to achieve?

theabstractguy
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I had freaking nostalgia from the first background music.

Jp3 DVD, all famous scene from multiple movies of the universal company with this music.

And i didnt heard this one for almost a decade.

Also did jurassic park predict that?
In the book they say they were expecting lizard and found bird like dna, making dino more difficult to clone.

deinsilverdrac
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One day, we'll bring back the Carolina Parakeet ;-;

khango
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It wasn't brought up in the movie, but in the book it was implied they were using artificial eggs (there was a mention InGen bought a company that had developed a plastic that mimicked eggshell and were using all of it that was being produced), so it wouldn't be necessary to try and re-implant the modified yolk into the mother to form the shell. Of course, that doesn't address the difficulty in replacing the nucleus. You'd also think the bigger dinosaurs' eggs would have a much larger yolk than a chicken egg, but I suppose they could use something like an ostrich egg for at least some of the species.

jawsbert
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Maybe try using an empty mammalian egg cell with Avian somatic cell nucleus? It may work 🤷🏻‍♀

The organelles probably dont discriminate between different genetic profiles.

lorencalfe
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I wonder if you could use crispr in already fertilized eggs to replace code to the point of near cloning.

VWHybrid
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The way chicken are clone remind me of how Terry is made in Batman beyond.

DarkDraconX
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It seems more like a lack of the right technologies to do such cloning …

Horus
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Atleast not yet...maybe one day we'll see our dino-chicken

nocturnalcreature