Time Sert or Heli Coil Better?

Time-Sert or Heli-coil? We answer this question a lot. In fact many of our customers call asking for a Helicoil kit. Helicoil is a brand name that's synonymous with thread repair. Just like Kleenex is the best known brand name for facial tissues, Heli Coil is the most common brand name for thread repair kits. But being the most commonly known name doesn't necessarily make it the best fix. See our blog using the link below or call us at 800-734-8665 for assistance picking out the best thread repair kit for your application.

[WiseAutoTools]

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[lorimorgan]

Nice overview of time-sert vs helicoil 

Heli-coil may be able to do this but one benefit for the time-sert is you can you can drill, tap, and put the insert on one side of a hole and have the thread work from the other side of the hole.  My personal example - stripped threads on a brake caliper bolt hole but there was not enough room on the side where the bolt threads in to drill and tap.

I drilled, tapped and put the insert in from the outside and the bolt was able to thread from the inside (other side) 

I spoke to time-sert before I did it and they said actually that would be a stronger fit because threading the bolt form the other side of the insert will actually pull the insert tighter.



  
 

[Integrity.is.everything]

*Time sert may be better but they are undoubtedly overpriced*

[bluer]

I worked at a machine shop and every company we made things for the engineers specified time sert and rejected heli coil repairs.

[cubleycat]

I fixed an old VM 2.4 diesel rocker shaft and rocker cover stud on a few heads by drilling out the hole to a larger size bolt and locktighting it in which I had drilled and tapped out with the correct size to take a new stud.
Good as new, cost hardly a thing and I could repair heads no one else could because they only used a Helicoil which never lasted.
Only last year I saved a guy have to spend a fortune who made a major screw up on a Range rovers belt tensioner, I even did the job without having to strip the vehicle. Always think about a solution before you buy new parts!

[timothywalding]

Very professional video sir. You will be hard pressed to find a better product. Time serts get the job done.

[maadenengineering]

Great video. Just wondering helicoil it time sert at what tourqe can hold?
I have head cylinder bolts stripped and I am plan to use helicoil but I am afraid will not hold the high tourqe value. 85ft ib ?or more?

Thanks

[fiveseven]

do they have a smaller home kit for timesert? thats the helicoil advantage.  if im tryin to fix an oil pan at home, at the price of a timesert, i could just replace the entire oil pan.  they should make a smaller kit for home garage tinkerers

[jonathanvazquez]

I need to repair a aluminum caliper banjo bolt hole threads. What would you recommend helicoil or timesert? Do you recommend red loctite on the outer threads of the insert?

[robertthomas]

Interesting product. I used Helicoils for years in industrial applications where the fasteners had to be removed and reinstalled very frequently into 6061 alloy molds. Never had any real problems with Helicoils moving or backing out, or wearing out. Sure, they did fail periodically, but consider that the fasteners were being cycled so regularly we would wear out tapped threads just the same. I have probably installed in excess of 5000 Helicoils, so I have a bit of experience. That said, Time Sert looks like a really good idea, especially for larger, higher torque applications.

[wadepage]

I want to use the Sav-A-Thread insert product on an aluminum oil pan. The "roll lock" feature has me wondering if it actually "rolls" the very tip end of the new replacement tube inside the oil pan, or if it just swells the last two threads outward? This makes a difference if the end of the insert goes in beyond the depth of the threads and protrudes into the cavity inside the oil pan. That could allow the turning out of the insert during subsequent oil changes, even though I planned on using Red thread locker on the outside of the thread insert, instead of gray RTV, before screwing it in to keep it locked in place. I planned to get the 14mm X 1.25 size, so as to accommodate the OEM oil plug when finished. I just did the oil change and used one of those plugs with the butterfly tap inside the oil pan and a wide flat head and rubber washer on the outside. When I eventually take that out to do the insert I will have the "butterfly" tap floating around inside the bottom of the oil pan unless I can devise some sort of "snake" magnet to pull it back out through the drain hole. I don't think it will hurt anything if I can't get it out though. I may can just find a strong enough magnet to glue to the outside of the aluminum oil pan. That will no only keep the tap from moving around, but will also gather any other steel shavings or debris. I could find a small vacuum tube and pull out the collection of filings and debris before adding new oil.

[WiseAutoTools]

No one can legitimately say that a thin coil of wire is stronger than a solid bushing type insert. Is Helicoil cheaper? Yes. Better? No. That's why the engineers at GM have worked with Time Sert to have head bolt thread repair kits designed and NOT Helicoil. Toyota has said that only Time Sert is to be used for their warranty repairs on Camry and Rav4's. Anyone saying Helicoil is better, just simply does not know, or has just been lucky so far. Worse yet are those that haven't used either but want to argue! Go figure.

[WiseAutoTools]

Want a temporary fix at best? Get Helicoil. Want a permanent type fix? Call us for the best solution. 800-734-8665 x251

[watdaheck]

Is there a timesert kit for a stripped rear subframe mounting hole for a 2010 MB E350? The rear subframe bolt is quite long...M12x1.5x130mm long (excl head cap and 5mm washer). 80mm of the 130mm bolt is threaded. Any advice would be much appreciated.

[Villaeddie]

How do you have to wait after repairing can you turn on engine?

[agustinguardado]

Thanks Dennis, i was hesitating  and you solve my doubts about these brands, i´m already working on a BMW with damage in treads on engine block, with your advice now i know what will i do, unvaluable help, questions, do you´ve catalog of Time sert?, is Würth right?

[poetlorryit]

used helicoil M6 diy kit on ally motorcycle cylinder head, to my horror the insert came out attached to the bolt the next time i loosened it, maybe shoulda used timesert on ally head which is not much harder than cheese

[Amopower]

I noticed that the Time sert inserts are carbon steel, as opposed to stainless. I know that means they are stronger, but what about the corrosion factor? Would seem that the Helicoils will last forever, but be weaker..as opposed to the carbon steel ones being stronger, but over time rusting and becoming weaker as time goes on.

[tyranwilliams]

I would like to purchase some of your kits

[erichandyauto]

Is there a difference between the time-sert drill bit and the helicoil drill bit?