What Was The Abyss Sibling's Journey? [Genshin Impact Theory]

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Today, I'm going to give love to my girl Lumine and wonder what her journey was throughout Teyvat. Wooo.

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Footage for the Abyss Sibling Reveal 1.4 Archon Quest: LyurGG
SONG: Kevin Macleod - Canon in D Major

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Also, my mic has decided that it's time to pass on to the next life o7

ChillwithAster
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I always feel like Lumine's journey started in Khanreiah and ended in Mondstadt, while Aether's started the other way around...

scaranara
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celestia feeling threatened by the twins cause they're outlanders just like them, gives off the feeling of cronus (in greek mythology) eating his children cause he fears that they'll be a threat to his rule. except ofc the twins don't get eaten imagine if the unknown god just goes "outlanders your journey ends here *CHOMP* needs some salt." instead of sealing their powers 💀

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I remember one of Dain’s lines when talking to the Traveler near Wolvendom. It sounded contradictory to the Traveler because Dain holds the archons in a bitter light yet he doesn’t want to commit the same mistakes his forbearers did. Could that be connected as to why Lumine see him as an enemy as well? I’m also kinda wondering since Lumine and Aether has their original powers very different from the elements of Teyvat, which is like them having otherworldly powers, I assume that Lumine may or may have not depended on the elements to gain her power as she never lost them in the first place other than being sealed away by the Sustainer while we see clearly in the beginning cutscenes Aether’s powers look like it had been sealed into the void and he states that in his opening line. I may be wrong but getting the elements from the statue of the seven is kinda like asking guidance from the Archons which Lumine wouldn’t want anything to do with due to her journey in Teyvat and her connections to Khaenriah. Venti would have noticed it as he did with the Traveler too.
Oh on a last note I remembered the beta (maybe the CBT) opening scene for Genshin which is actually quite darker because despite our Twin being taken from us, we were plunged into a series of nightmares throughout the duration of our slumber (might not be exactly right as how I remembered) but it kinda goes on to show how both twins suffered quite a lot by being separated from each other. One had to witness the fall of a nation they could call “home” while the other had to endure the loneliness of losing their only kin. QwQ sad...

myrtle
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I think Lumine definitely journey after the cataclysm for this very small detail: in the opening cutscene before we chose which twins, Lumine is always the one to ask the Unknown God who she is. If Lumine had reached the end of her journey by that time, she would have known the truth of the world, and the identity of the unknown god.

fluffymeow
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I always think back to Venti's "hello" voice line where he says "Traveler, we meet again! What? You don't remember me?"

Did the Traveler meet Venti before and forget? Or did Venti confuse the siblings because he was drunk? Maybe Venti just screwing around because that's what he likes to do and it doesn't mean anything.

bitvanbite
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It would be really cool if there was an arc later in the game where we get to play as the sibling we didn't pick, so that we can see firsthand what their journey was really like 500 years ago. It would also give people the chance to play as the sibling they didn't choose and have Dainsleif as the traveling companion instead of Paimon. Hearing your theory about the Abyss sibling's journey makes me very hopeful haha

CrystalRubyMoon
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What’s odd is in enkanomiya one of the souls recognized the travelers clothes as someone likely from khaneria or some kind of correcting officer in enkanomiya (from what I remember) (and mind the terrible spelling lol). So we can infer that during the time enkanomiya was a thriving civilization, there were people whose clothes likely mirrored the travelers. Then add in the fact that back then tevayt was basically one huge civilization, and the travelers origins and eventual journey seem that much more confusing to me at least

IchiShou
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I may looking things too deeply but this is my especulation about Lumine's journey.

Upon looking at the opening act, unlike Aether, Lumine's powers weren't sealed away. If you look again at their fight against the Unknown God, if that Lumine never let go of her sword, nor see any power being sealed unlike Aether during then confrontation. Explaining why, during "We will be reunited" quest, she still posses her original power and sword ---- although more weakened since she has been sleeping for long time.

mariapazgonzalezlesme
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if the Traveller ever come to face with choosing to take Dain's side or their Sibling's, I think they would take their Sibling's side. Think about it, who would you trust more? a super biased guy or your family member, someone you have been travelling from worlds to worlds for hundreds, possibly thousands, of years?

Also, the Twins likely knows about guns through their journey arcoss worlds

Huyrrou
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Actually, it started way before even the catastrophe happened. Lumine and Aether are from other world's civilization. I presumed that Lumine and Aether might help Kanreah developed its technology and knowing that Celestia is also from other world. It might be that Celestia has some conflict of interest with Lumine/Aether or their civilization.

samalenyo
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Personally I can never believe that the abyss sibling would go on an entire journey themselves and just leave their twin laying in some ditch. Especially because it seems the twins can wake each other up, how else could the abyss sibling grab the traveler and tell them "we need to leave."

I am of the opinion that the abyss sibling woke up and went off to see what was around and found khaenri'ah. She walked around and experienced the people and left to go back for the traveler. Only to see the fall happen from a distance which gives us the clip of them running and stumbling over to the cliff where we can see the destruction the sustainer is dishing out.

Seeing this level of godly destruction she decides they need to leave which leads to the sustainer blacking the way and capturing the twins.

From there the abyss sibling does their journey with dain and decides to join the abyss. On dainsleif perhaps he betrayed khaenri'ah in some way which has lead to the hatred that the abyss sibling has for them. The betrayal could be that he exposed the goings and goals of khaenri'ah

isdrakon
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I feel that our journey as traveler is to find out the full truth and clear misunderstandings between the two/three sides(because lumine seems to put the archons and Celestia in the same pot and that may be wrong to assume as they too may had reasons to act in some ways or forced to; though ofc they also made mistakes too or poor choices, they're not perfect and won't deny that) and then maybe unite forces to remove Celestia. dain may not like the gods but he's not aggressive towards them either(?). makes me think(if he met them in the past and saw how they are) he maybe knows a little more of them than lumine. but that is just speculation on my part.

dragon_nova_luna
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Imagine that when mihoyo finishes developing teyvat, that when you are done with the story of teyvat you can swap places with the other twin and do their stories. Nice thought, will take like 5-10 years tho.

rune_lol
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in the newest nahida quest it was said that she lived with one of the fatuis, which could possibly mean that she was only in khaenriah and maybe just walked through every nation without doing quests. or maybe she wasnt in mondstadt and liyue considering that the other archons we met and will meet werent the archons at the time with khaenriah. we also know of a fact that she doesnt like the archons, maybe cause she never met them, and thought that the archons are just evil. after that she met dain and they travelled together, but they possibly never had communication with the archons (aether just had pretty much luck) and the people aether met during his journey werent alive then. after she became the abyss princess, she got part of teyvat since she had a big role of it.

iceplay
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I somehow feel like Liza would’ve known about Lumine if she’d passed through Mondstadt in the past, interacting with it’s people. Such things tend to be referenced at least somewhere.
Edit: besides, she’s a non-biased party, unlike the archons, so she’d not be bound by anything to hide this info from Aether.

Restributordevill
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It could be possible that the waypoints we find everywhere, might be placed by Lumine and Dainsleif (idk his proper spelling sorry) since as we know, Khaenri'ah was an advanced nation so it is not impossible for them to make waypoints or teleporters.

And, I still don't know if Lumine has already journeyed through Teyvat, how come the Statues of the Seven are not lightened up?

jamkai
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Regarding your bit about the Abyss and the Fatui teaming up, I can’t help but find it unlikely. At least, I do at the moment, and for one reason only. That being Childe’s Story Quest. In it, he states that the Fatui is just as much of an enemy to the Abyss as the rest of Teyvat. I just don’t see it possible for the Abyss to join forces with one of the entities that they’re actively trying to destroy, in the case the Tsaritsa.

fencerderio
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A guess regarding why Dain is considered a traitor by the Abyss: he may have learned that his country was on the verge of causing a different, larger-scale cataclysm, and resolved to sacrifice his own people in order to spare the rest of the world by tipping off Celestia (or something similar). This seems to be in accordance with his cynical nature and the fact he seems to imply "the gods are bad, but the Abyss is worse". It resulted in hellish devastation that no witness (much less victim) would be able to forgive, even if they knew doing nothing would have resulted in a worse outcome for the world itself. The Abyss sibling would believe that "this was overkill" and "things could have been handled differently", and blame Celestia and Dain for the *means* rather than the *end*.
From a narrative standpoint, having factions share a common goal but advocate for opposite methods to reach it is a great way to generate conflict without falling into a "black or white" theme. It also allows for more plot twists as the (actually good) objective can be revealed much later than the (visibly evil) means.

Another possibility would be that he ran away from the fight after realising Celestia couldn't be fought against, but this idea doesn't explain why he'd actively fight the Abyss nowadays. He also didn't strike me as someone who would shirk his responsibilities for his own convenience. Finally, he'd be called a coward rather than a traitor.
I think we can also assume with confidence that he didn't betray his country for personal gain; otherwise, he wouldn't be in the position he's in, doing the things he's doing. He'd be enjoying the fruits of his betrayal, or hiding in a corner, not risking his life fighting something that wouldn't concern him at that point.

lasselen
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I think It makes more sense for her to awake and knows Kaenriah than her traveling and learning about the reason of Cataclysm.
In we will be reunited, we learn that she was awake before Aether (we don't know how long) and that she woke up Aether so they can escape.
Also during the intro cutscene, the Sustainer of heavenly principle says "the arrogation of mankind ends know", while attacking them and more especially why is she watching Lumine this way? It's clear by her actions that she wants to ends Lumine while the only thing she did to Aether was to seal him back in Teyvat. I don't think that they were attacked simply for being foreigners coming into Teyvat, it's coincide literally at the same time the war happened, it's not a coincidence. What we see when Ather talks to Paimon in the intro is about what he saws, from his side of view. He only saw a glimpse of Teyvat when it was good, then slept once they arrived in this world, and woke up again to see that there was a war.

Also from the twins twitter intro cards: "Your motherland was doomed; palaces and cities fallen into dust. You should have been the person who owned and embraced the world. But, the last descendants of the extinct nation, please don't grief over these past moments"
"As long as your honorable purity and compassion remains unchanged, there will still be best partners to travel with you across the new world that all belongs to you"
"Welcome to the new World" - K.K

By these cards, maybe the twins are actually royalty in their own world, so maybe, they don't call her princess as a title she gains from Kaeriah/Abyss, but as a princess from another land.

narudayo