Bambu Lab P1P: Tradeoffs

The P1P is an incredibly impressive printer, but did it have to make all the tradeoffs it comes with?

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[MartinWolker]

Please don't pay attention to those who want to steal your own opinion. That's why your videos are so valuable, because they contain the good and the bad regardless of the brand! Thanks Tom!

[markmosley]

You're going to have to do 3 videos. One for the installation of the prelaunch upgrades, one for print comparison at Ender or MK3 speeds and finally a video for full speed including the speeds that Bambu states is possible.

[Jimaha]

You should definatley print the side panels as I imagine most people who are looking to buy this would like to see how easy it is.

[DarthTater]

You should do a few videos on it. I would like to see a head to head style video, this the mk3, the ender3 v2 all stock printing the same files. Then compare quality and print time etc. Then separately test the p1p against itself with the included upgrades. Then maybe a section on the cosmetic mods.

[kelvin]

I quite like the LCD, nice chunky pixels that can be seen by my ageing eyes rather than the tiny fonts (on a comparatively large screen) that many "nicer" screens use.

[gregoryp]

finally someone acknowledge the "Ender 3 is the best printer if you add these 23 mods" paradigm . So many time I have seen on reddit someone new asking what printer to get and ender3 fan boys telling them to get an ender3 and do these mods when the OP was expecting the 3d printer to be like a 2d printer where you click the print button and go.

[AuntJemimaGames]

I think a balanced approach to speed vs. quality is probably the most useful. Printing at faster speeds without any appreciable loss of quality is probably the best outcome for printed parts in almost all cases.

[valentinpictures]

Your reviews are by far the most interesting in the community for anyone wanting a pure, unfiltered feedback without hiding the drawbacks. I'm glad you took the time to do this video !

[Dangineering]

I would love to see the results compared to prusa i3 and an ender 3 at various speeds like 50mm/s, 70mm/s, 100, etc etc and then compare the amount of skipping, visual artifacts, and overall changes between them.

[ruftime]

Wonderfully pragmatic review as always, Thank you Thomas!

[calaphos]

I have to be honest, I like the "PC case chassis" look. The savings of including corner pieces are probably quite low, but the whole theme of printing your own cosmetic parts is a nice idea. And as long as there are no sharp edges it has a certain functional look

[workshopetech]

I believe the P1P also has bluetooth, which is a unique feature over the X1 series. They haven't said anything about how they are planning to use it though. Seems like they are also still mum on that external control pad.

[a.j.venter]

Reliability. The major issue with budget printers you mod to make better: is out of the box they aren't reliable. Ender 5's have prints fail because of badly tensioned extruders deforming the filament (I had that) and then again because of bowden tube gaps. Getting to the point where you can consistently get a successful print most of the time: that takes a LOT of upgrades, careful tuning and learning. It can take months to get an Ender type printer to the point where it's legitimately reliable. Now some of the newer entries in the market here like the Elegoo Neptune 3 may be better in this regard (I don't know), but this is their biggest shortcoming. And if I was to consider saving up for a printer thats 3 times the price of an ender 5 pro, (considering I spent almost that much on upgrades by now) - what I'd want is that reliabilty. On reputation: that means "Go for Prusa, for a hundred bucks more you get the most famously great printer build around, and it really does just work almost always). Quite a feat for a now 5 year old design. But its' also a slow bed-slinger using an inductive ABL that forces you to ALWAYS print on metal (I love my FR4 printbed). Is this better? Can it use other beds ? And is it reliable. Will it keep working if you print regularly over several weeks, or will you regularly have lots of failures due to mechanical printer flaws until you replace a lot of the pieces where they cut too many corners ? That's where a mid-range printer can shine: "Sure it's 3 times the price, but you don't need to spent that much again to make it reliable, it already IS reliable". Can you test that ?

[skyrider]

I love how the Bambu is doing exactly what it set out to do: shake up & raise the bar in the 3D printing industry. Bravo. 👏

[budhiw]

I would like to know if print quality and part strength are equal or better then 'normal' printspeeds and a hardware check for those parts NOT in the shop.

[GarethLewin]

One thing I am interested in is the strength of the parts printed at those speeds.

[ericjiang]

I would love to see how the print quality compare to mk3 x1c and Voron. I been using my x1c and it surprised me on print quality. Printing and 2-3x faster than my mk3 while having no warping on pc/abs while my mk3 have tiny warp on edges even with petg.

[lnt]

I would be curious how prints look on their specified speeds, after all this is one of the main features that printers have: print speed.

[paulmcewen]

Your video added a lot of value to the content so far available on this printer. kudos.

[TheTechenthusiast]

good review ! I bought mine back in june and I do not think the screen is that bad. I use bambu studio so i use this screen maybe once a week to change filament but I could do that from the slicer.