Thread Director 2 Has Been Updated For 13th-Gen

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Along with the hybrid core architecture in 12th-gen CPUs, Intel introduced Thread Director to help with application management between the performance and efficiency cores. Unfortunately the first iteration didn't really work as well as we hoped, but Thread Director 2 is coming with 13th-gen Raptor Lake CPUs and it could change that. In this video Gordon gets a demo live from Intel Innovation 2022.

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I love how seriously he took you bringing up the benchmark scores. I'd like to see proper benchmarks between 13th gen and 7000 series.

fdfd
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I'm that crazy multi-tasker that has a game going on my main monitor and a video playing on my left monitor with browsing and mod downloads going on in my right monitor....where my game is often minimized while multi-tasking. I hope some of my favorite tech channels test this stuff out with both brands...building a new system in December.

Druac
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We definitely need a real world comparison of Thread director 2.0 in win10 vs win11 !!

Kopa
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This is awesome to see. Finally Intel delivering on the P-Core/E-Core magic.

krishnav
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While this can be done manually by the user, it is a giant pain in the rear. Having the OS/scheduler do it automatically is definitely a smoother experience. And with a 2:1 ratio of e-cores to p-cores, Intel is betting heavy on the lower power processing that comes with the chip and needs to make sure users can take proper advantage of it. That being said, it's really hard to figure out exactly what the user wants. Will minimized vs maximized windows be enough info to properly guess the desires of the user? "Smart" tech is great, as long as it's doing what you want, there is nothing worse when smart tech becomes "stupid" and you have to fight it get what you actually want.

aggies
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Knocking it out of the park Gordon, well done. The other question is though how much of this is the new processor and how much is actually being done by windows coding?

Arachnoid_of_the_underverse
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This is an advantage which will be very tangible in real world use cases, much more than some more hz in synthetic loads.

timoluetk
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its definitely cool seeing it figure out whats 'important' automatically but as a person who manually sets up cpu affinity per app im a bit skeptical, cant say win11 is exciting either lol

ekshalibur
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freeing P core is a good idea but i wouldn't free them all unless needed, you would loose background rendering time if you switch to something, like the game, that doesn't use all the cores or an idle window

edo
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Is the improved decision-making of what's "important" purely based on whether a program is minimized or not? Or does it get more sophisticated than that?

Trifler
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I would say first thing you do Gordon, testing this scenario (gaming in front, rendering in back) on a Ryzen 9 7950x vs 13900K wenn both are available :) thanks!

peterw.
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why would I pay more for this when 3D applications have option how many threads I want to use for render task and build light even Blender has it

k-vandan
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how to force rendering with all cores in the tray? I minimize the window and instead of the expected time, I get a render that is twice or even three times longer

rainonsunday
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Is there an EXE or service we should make sure not to disable on windows 11 to make sure thread director is working? I disabled a lot of intel services like intel management engine and such, so how do we know THREAD DIRECTOR is working without messing up the OS

Multimeter
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This behavior is actually pretty annoying. I run BOINC on my PC, and any maximized window will push BOINC tasks off the P-cores, even if it's just a browser...

jenesuispasbavard
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So this is a monster for streamers then?

GroundedTech
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Is that the Raptor Lake 34 core Wafer sitting on the bench Ian Cuttress picked up?

zorbakaput
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Nice Gordon, you read my mind. I was wondering if it worked on 12th gen. He said i9 but I assume it works on all chips?

thesupremeginge
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Do you lose any FPS when you run those programs in the background? if not then this is really impressive!

TheSpiritof
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hi i have a question i have an i9 12900k with asus Z690 prime p d4 on bios hypert enable!! on windows 11 22h Hyperthreading Supported, Disabled? taskbar 16 core 24 and 24 diagrams why it say speccy Hyperthreading Supported, Disabled!? and intel id to same information . I don't get it is that normal? because a hybrid cpu or do I have to enable something in windows or bios? but got crazy but is turned on. can someone help me with that thank you

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