Was Mace Windu More Powerful Than Count Dooku?

Count Dooku and Mace Windu were the two most respected Jedi after Grand Master Yoda. Both were masters of their respective lightsaber forms and were strong in the force. Windu used a unique lightsaber form known as Vapaad which was designed to take advantage of a Darksiders fury and use it against them. This is why Windu was able to beat Palpatine. However, Dooku was no ordinary Sith. He was a former Jedi who relied on form 2, the most precise and elegant lightsaber form. Although Windu may be well suited to fighting Sith with aggressive fighting styles, he would have struggled to use Vaapad against Dookus measured form making it very likely that Dooku would win.

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[VadersFortress]

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[townbug]

so mace was a Jedi who harnessed sith anger and dooku was a sith who harnessed precision and elegance. that's cool

[danielalbertalexander]

and dont forget about dooku's "signature look of superiority"

[rickeyb]

A blinded Count Dooku verses Ventress and the Night sisters.
"I don't need my eyes to see you Jedi"! A great fight!

[AHitmanForHire]

Dooku needs his own series, such a rich character background

[grandadmiralzaarin]

Dooku is literally credited as having been the only Jedi other than Yoda to have bested Windu in a lightsaber duel when they were Jedi.

[Oberbazillus]

Agreed. Dooku never fully tapped into the dark side making Vapaad less effective, and he was trained by both the strongest Light side and the strongest Dark side user of his time. He probably wins high difficulty.
Edit: And look at Clone Wars Dooku, a fking Menace!! Fighting one armed and shit. Lol

[stevenwright]

Vaapad wasn't just a form, it was a technique using the force to find the weakness of an opponent using the force and applying pressure through various forms of attack to a specific point. .a shatterpoint...that if hit, it would be the one place that destroys the enemy and his defense completely.

[VIPERJ]

Power rating in Star Wars in complex 😭

[matthewwest]

“A weapon that uses the power of a sith against them”
“That kinda sounds like a weapon we all should have” - Starlord

[cameronmeyer]

Dooku is such an underrated character. He bested anakin and Obi wan at the same time then held his own against yoda, then ragdolled obi wan again in the third movie. I’m glad he’s getting the shine he deserves from tales of the Jedi.

[darthfossil]

Rock beats scissors. Scissors beats paper. Paper beats rock.
I love combat fighting techniques, each technique triumphs one another.

[OK-yyqz]

I'd go with mace. Apparently when Windu and Palpatine were fighting it was so fast that Anakin could barely understand what was happening. Anakin has comparable speed to Dooku meaning the speed gap between Dooku and Windu would be too much

[SkoomaChugger]

That fight would have been a beautiful scene

[flyingsera]

crazy im excited for this discussion didnt think mace could be beaten by him

[chrisortega]

Mace Windu didn't ONLY use Vapaad. He was simply the developer of that form. Mace has shown impressive form 4 and 5 styles in Gendy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars TV show. As we know, that's how Anakin defeated Dooku on the Invisible Hand.

[nelsondelvalle]

idk bout y'all but I'm 90% sure Mace trained and mastered more forms than just Vaapad.

[freelands]

They fought in one Legends comic but Dooku had magnaguards grab Mace and fall with him into a deep crater while Dooku escaped

[mellowknight]

The only problems I see with this is that Mace didn't ONLY use Vapaad exclusively.

Dookus weakness in Form 2 Makashi lies in that it cannot build offensive momentum against an aggressive form like Form 5 as used by Anakin...

In Revenge of the Sith, Windus form is described as lighting fast, unpredictable strikes...taking inspiration from a many tentacled creature from which his form is named...if I remember correctly. Vapaad is capable of overwhelming defenses as was shown in the fight against Palpatine who was said to have mastered all 7 Saber forms. As adept as Palpatine was...if this was true, he would have defeated Mace with the use of form 2. This didn't happen and he was clearly a better duelist than Dooku.

I'm sorry, Dooku loses this one in my observation...

[rickeyb]

It's weird! Yoda trained Jedi for 800 years, lived 900 and did not encounter a Sith until Sidious late into the plot. Mace is far younger than Yoda but achieved a position that Dooku did not achieve in the Jedi order. Mace developed a technique with no Sith to train/practice or develop yet, Mace (according to George Lucas) defeated one of the best dark side users ever! Regardless of form, a Sith is still a Sith and uses the Dark Side of the force!