Which Is The Best Enemy Airspace Infiltrator: F-117 Nighthawk or F-35 Lightning II? | DCS

We attempt to answer the valued viewer question: "which is the better hostile airspace infiltrator - F-117 Nighthawk or F-35 Lightning II?".

0:00 Overview
4:15 Predicitons
5:08 Attempt With 4th Gen Jets
18:31 Attempt With Stealth Jets
30:56 Silliness

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[terryboyer]

Last week I got to view a F-117 up close at the Museum of Aviation next to Robins AFB in Georgia. The leading and trailing edges of the wings were removed as well as various other parts including one of the bomb bay doors. It was also silver in bare metal skin. It was displayed outside for 3 weeks prior to being moved inside for a 1 year restoration. I asked a docent about the missing parts and he said they were removed along with the black paint because they are still have top secret classification. I asked why one bomb bay door was removed while the other remained and he didn't have an answer. Also since the shoot down over Serbia paint and other parts were readily available for analysis. It was smaller than I expected.

[elladakku]

Well done Brand0n for dodging all those missiles that was fun to watch!

[S.Madman]

The F-117 is still being flown, at least around my town. It was recently coated with a mirror paint similar to the new F-22 paint. It's mostly used in counter stealth exercises (think chinese stealth planes, and stealth missiles). JDAMS are being tested.

[BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Warm recollections of Microprose f-19/f-117 sims, which were kind of advanced for their time... And the manual was a fun book to read, detailing everything including different kinds of radars and techniques for notching

[itsjustme]

Heh, I flew with the 416th Squadron of the 37th TFW on opening night of Desert Storm. 1) It was NOT 'fun' and 2) The Nighthawk is a hard damned aircraft to fly.
She earned the name of 'Wobblin Goblin' for good reason. The b*tch was as slow as molasses, running uphill, in winter (I only ever got her past 600 mph, (540 knots) in a dive)! Unstable and hard to keep in the air. Her rate of ascent was horrible, but her operational ceiling was decent.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, her stealth was you opened the bomb bay doors. After that, your radar cross section goes from 0.001 m2 to HEY! LOOK AT ME! SHOOT. RIGHT. HERE!! We also missed targets....a lot....like 40%. On the plus side we also flew right over downtown Baghdad on a regular basis without getting shot down, so there's that.
I was never happier to leave an aircraft behind! Flew the Mudhen (F-15E) for many years after that.


Anyway, carry on! Have a pleasant weekend, gentlemen and ladies.

[stupidburp]

The most common opinion about stealth characteristics is seldom the most accurate opinion.

[BionicBurke]

Would be interesting if you could do 4th gen how 4th gen would have attempted this in real life. Need EF-111A Ravens in the group running jammers.

[christopherthomsen]

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[scdavis]

Got to see the F22 and F35 at an airshow today Cap. The F22 was the most amazing thing I've ever seen

[RazgrizRed]

Hey Cap and the Reapers. Idea for a competition video - now that you've got all these great mods and toys. (Just finished watching your S350 video with CH) : Create an Air defence system for a certain budget (open source the system costs) and test its effectiveness against AI / Humans. Who in GR can come up with the best AD on a budget. (My money's on Cortana!)
All the entrants would need to do is send you a list of what they want, where they want it and how much they spent. Winner would be most effective AD for cheapest price.

[ChucknDeuces]

Cap, gotta hand it to you…. I don’t know how you come up with all these different scenarios, but I love that you do! Every day I look forward to your video dropping.

[jansenart]

The F117 was like we found alien tech and adopted it for our own purposes with the materials we had on hand at the time.

[koppythewarcriminal]

The F117 flying with the F35s has the same energy as a grandpa having quality time with his grandkids

[Maverick]

This was a fun one!! Hats of to Brandon the Buk Slayer!!! You guys called it, and the last dodge footage before they finally got him illustrated it the best, it's all in the wiggle!!! Great flying as always Grim Reapers!!!

[scarcasmtincap]

Thanks for putting out content that entertains.

[randalljones]

Those missile chases were more like a Birds and Bees session.

Bravo to the near survivors... eventually/sadly, and in the words of Dawson : "You died young".

[mariushusejacobsen]

Real stealth operations, F-117 and B-2 infamously relied heavily on mission planning to maximize their advantage from stealth. Mostly because RCS is highly dependent on what direction the radar is looking from, which I don't think DCS handles at all.
With the F-35, it has all the hardware to gather all the information itself and let the pilot do re-planning on the fly. This is fully eradicated when you put them in a tight course like this, not that a dcs mod will deal with that in the first place.

[Shannon-Smith]

My guess at the 15-second mark is the F-117. I wonder if I'll be correct?

[robjohnson]

31:58 - SuperCap at 10 ft - 700 mph - checks fuel - "Don't try this at home kids..."

[jrizos]

Dodging missiles with Fly and the people's champ, a perfect Saturday video!