“Daikin Bought Goodman?”… The TRUTH about HVAC Brands 🔥🤯

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[nathandagley]

Goodman and Daikin are manufactured in the same facility side by side. Been there 2 weeks ago

[Krunch]

As a general contractor I only had access to Goodman. I installed one in my own house. After 15 years the vacuum port corroded but didn’t cost me any money. I’m very happy with Goodman!

[wholeNwon]

12 yrs ago, I replaced my 47 yo Carrier R-12 systems with Goodmans. Installation is everything in determining longevity. I had a few modifications made: Replaced piston metering with TXVs, added sight glasses with moisture detection and 5" filter boxes. I have an AC license and was with the really excellent installer for every minute of the work. I monitored the micron gauge myself for over 24 hr. The total cost then for the 2 systems and everything from circuit breakers to T-stats to cutoffs to slab, 10 yr. parts and labor transferable warranty was 6000. Zero issues with the systems. I just keep the area around the condensers clean, check the filters, am careful to keep chlorine containing cleaners away from all intakes, etc. I never allow "tune-ups", checking charge, etc. If the systems are functioning properly, they cannot be made to function better, only worse. So no one touches them. Oh, and I keep a spare capacitor or two just in case.

[Bryan-Hensley]

I've sold Goodman for 23 years and it's the brand I have to go back on the least. I've got several customers that have 30 year old Goodman. I agree with you, installation error is what gave Goodman a bad name because they would sell to anyone even if you weren't a legit HVAC company.

[danielparrish]

when I purchased a new home I asked the builder why he put a Goodman system in he said it was the cheapest one he could buy that met all federal requirements for the size of the home and the efficient ratings required. The unit ran with no problems and I noticed over the years that several of my neighbors who had Lennox systems had major issues with them

[jo-annreynolds]

Our Goodman is 26 yrs and still going strong.

[Needsalittlemorefreon]

I used to get called to apartment complexes a lot and the complex would always get goodman from HD supply or somewhere else and have us install it. I’m talking R410a condensers with existing r22 coils, straight cool package units with no heat. Just throw it in and walk away. No warranty. Goodman takes a beating and that Copeland compressor kicks butt. We sold Amana and they had the best warranty and it worked great.

[capps]

Worked at a plant that made parts for the HVAC industry. We made mainly subassemblies and simple components like check valves and distributors. Our main customers were Carrier, Trane, Lennox, and Daikin. Carrier and Trane sent the majority of bad parts back. Much of these send backs were for cracked solders and shitty looking braze joints. Some of the issues from Carrier came from leak detection and burst testing. We only leak tested to 200psi with Helium (smallest molecule), Carrier tests to 400psi on a burst test...

Overall I can say choosing a brand of HVAC is like choosing a brand of lawn mower. It's the SAME components. The only difference is the quality of the assembly. That relies on the quality of the assembly worked. If your assembly line is experienced and well trained it'll be a solid assembly. If the line is full of temps that don't care about anything but the paycheck your quality will suck and something will be missed.

[obwan]

I have Goodman in 3 properties for 15 plus years now. Not one single failure (knock on wood).. An air Conditioning/heating system is only as good as how its installed and how well its maintained.. If properly installed they will last years...I installed them myself as a Class A Florida Air Conditioning/ Heating contractor..I have worked on other Goodman as well as other name brands that were junk because of how they were installed...Daikin is one of the largest manufactures in the world with one of the best warranties..

[SomeRandomdude]

As a 28 year Senior Tech - The Goodman units I am seeing lately along with Amana have Rotary compressors in them with smaller tubing in the condenser coils. These are more susceptible to dirt/airflow issues. And not fun to disassemble to clean. Sharp edges everywhere too.

[len]

Had a heat pump installed 15 months ago, by a friend in the business, who said he does Goodman. The unit had Daikin labels on it, inside and outside pieces. The outside unit, had a biglabel in front marked Amana. The part numbers were all Daikin, and checking online, I found the same numbers for Goodman. I'm aware that Daikin bought Goodman around 2012.

[whomeverwherever]

In my area of Florida, I have yet to find an HVAC company that is both qualified and ethical, so unfortunately, I’ve had to sink money into repairing an oversized Goodman. I just couldn’t justify spending thousands more to risk another poor install of a “proper” system. There is zero consistency on knowledge - you get a different input from anyone who comes out, and prices are all over the place. Also, none of them look at everything at once before recommending a new system. All of them want to install the compressor and handler first and then come back later to check duct sizing and whatnot. Prices on the same Daikin system have ranged from $8k-$16k+ for just the compressor and handler and whatever dumb thermostat is needed. Such a corrupt/greedy industry. I had to go through 3 companies and multiple days of 91° temps indoors waiting for my Goodman to be repaired. I could not manage several more days without a/c and again had no trust in any of the companies that came out to be able to justify replacing. It was a terrible predicament to be in.

[Gus]

I've had my Goodman going on 7 yrs from brand new and have only replaced the Capacitor! Btw, I live in Florida!

[Buc_Stops_Here]

Right sizing is so important with the right contractor. I bought a house with an ancient AC that failed almost immediately. However, I did find a well recommended installer by many people in my area who was known for not only installing but supporting with good maintenance. Not the cheapest, but not the most expensive either. Bought from them 11 years ago a Lennox Heat pump and it still running today. We use it down to 38 degrees and for all cooling, and it really has been durable. We did have an electronic overflow switch fail under parts warranty which was $200 to install, but besides that just regular maintenance now for 11 years. They told us using it the right way it will last anywhere from 10-15 years so we know EOF is coming, but it has been a great system.

[jmackinjersey]

Another longevity issue is the fact that most people do not have preventative maintenance done on their HVAC systems, and minor issues are not caught early enough to stop premature failure.

Heck, most people don't change their filters often enough...

[MyHVACproject]

I agree that Goodman has/had a bad reputation due to its distribution policy. Your house cat can buy a Goodman unit, but a 50 year HVAC contractor can’t buy a Carrier (a Payne maybe etc) unless he’s a Carrier dealer. IME, all the brands will only sell their Flagships (there are 2) to their dealers, but their “cousins” they sell to acontractor.(Concord, Payne etc.) The second reason, IMV, is that 25 years age Goodman built crap. Goodman bought old line name “Janitrol” and ran it in the ground. They earned the name “Junkitrol.” If I needed a furnace and I needed to shop around for a job, 3 distributors would be $40 apart. Goodman would be $200 lower. Remember the “Dependable 92”? Goodman was the darling of 2 year HVAC side work guys. They made a bad product.

However…..nobody has worked harder than Goodman in improving quality. They lead in warranty and they install good parts. (I’m not a Goodman dealer and never have been.) I think the Goodman of today is a good reputable product. The Goodman of the 90s? Nope. They used to advertise “Thank goodness for Goodman.” I know a lot techs in the 90s felt, “Thank goodness it’s not a Goodman.”

[buffystclair]

Been gearing down for the big hurt as my furnace and AC units are going to have their 40 th birthday soon. Olsen furnace but couldn’t tell you what make the AC is, private label I think. When researching what to buy on today’s market I read and heard good things about the Daikon brand. I had a client of mine who just happened to be a salesman. In fact that’s all he ever did, from windows and siding to cars ( both of which he sold my parents), anyway he was now selling for one of the largest plumbing/HVAC companies in my city. He was all over the Daikon brand. He explained that when they wanted to enter the North American market, they ended up buying Goodman . They knew it was a premium product. The reasoning was they would anchor their own product as premium and Goodman would their lower end . If this in fact happened then it’s a win win for the consumer.

[jmackinjersey]

I flip houses and we primarily use Goodman, and have not had any major issues. As you said, it depends on the installation.

[whotobelieve]

LOAD CALC!! OMG! You're a rare bird! Now get airflow & duct design into the discussion 😊

[houptee]

Midea and Gree make almost every brand of inverter mini splits and the larger full size systems. They are sold as private label as Tosot, Mr Cool, Senville, C&H, YMGI etc etc. They even make the mini splits for the big American brands.