Equality of Opportunity Vs Equality of Outcome | Jordan B Peterson and Ben Shapiro

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Free markets are predicated on equality, rights, and the idea that every human being is made in the image of God; the last of which might be the single most important sentence in the history of humanity.

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Hey I know this is just some person who runs Peterson's channel, but...
Thank you for posting these videos. They mean more to people than you can imagine.

vjm
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, thank God for the Government of Canada and the bill C-16, because they gave YOU to us, to the whole world!

pinasandu
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***Equality should always trump equity.***

"Equity" sounds like "Equality", but it is very different. "Equality" is protected by the U.S. constitution, which means everyone is treated and protected equally under the law. "Equity" means equal outcome. It is social justice equity, from critical social justice theory, related to critical theory, critical race theory(for racial equity), and neo Marxism. It is the dichotomy of the oppressor and the oppressed, privileged and disadvantaged. The totem of victimhood, and intersectionality of victimhood. Equity, critical social justice means redistribute resources. It means to strip the "unearned" wealth, advantage, and resources from the oppressor, and give it to the "deserved" oppressed. It usually practiced at identity group level. Equity practice treats different identity groups differently. Holding one group back, while allow another group to proceed, in order to achieve equal outcome.

The critical social justice theory is problematic. A person simultaneously belongs to many identity groups. race, gender, sex, sexual orientation, country of origin, ethnicity, age, health, education, jobs, income, wealth, able-body, attractiveness, temperament, the list will go on and on. Even if you believe one group is "privileged", another is "unprivileged", how can you compare victimhood along different identity dimensions, like a able-bodied black person vs. handicapped white person? Who is more of a victim? The society may have to calculate victim score along each identity dimension, and assign an aggregate victim score to each person in order to decide how much advantage the society should assign to this person, or take away from this person, in the name of social justice. But here are the problem:

* Does each identity dimension carry the same weight in victim score? e.g. race vs. gender? Do people agree on that?

* Who is qualified, and authorized to assign such victim score? Do people agree on that?

* Can group identity correctly summarized a person's life experience?

* How can society continue to monitor each person's victim score to reflect the changed life experience, e.g. become disabled, or get a high paid job, etc. What is the cost of that?

* Race and gender are usually quoted as a reason to provide equity. Does race and gender alone reflect full life experience of an individual with so many other identity groups the person is in? Why just race and gener?

Equity, in the name of critical social justice, creates more confusions, injustices, divisions, and resentments. It is a discrimination.

Equality should always trump equity.

adambrian
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Does anyone know how jordan Peterson is? Last I heard he was in rehab and since that, nothing. He has helped me immensely and I actually worry about him

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There is a fundamental misunderstanding here about what equality of outcomes means. It is not intended to ensure everyone comes out of a particular system in the same position as one another, it merely suggests that everyone can complete the particular system or pathway without being inhibited. It's basically to ensure the integrity of the end to end process, not the result.

fredwellmann
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We are sitting on the shoulders of giants listening to this logic and reason

pknyryan
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We want "equality of opportunity", but we can't achieve "equality of opportunity" by making it "equality of outcome". This is not fair!

joeyye
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Muh 2 favorite public figures. I need more of these two together having debates and conversations

politotrujillo
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By teaching equality of outcome vs equality of opportunity we will only be raising an entire generation of self entitled emotionally fragile narcissists!

lesliel.
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Equality of opportunity can easily be negated via the corporate model of broad HR institutional controls. A new age form of "Black-listing" may be prevalent at executive and management levels without greater public knowledge or input.

merlepatterson
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Jordan has gone through so much teaching that only the crazy college kids are left to teach (If this is any sort of indicator of his direction now)

Matthew-obvb
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Come to India. We suffer because of equity system a lot in the form of reservation.

shubhambagri
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I didn't understand one thing that they said

Hellocali
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Why would any capitalist allow for a free market if he has a power to bend it to serve his interests? Why do you expect people not to act in their self interest? Corporationism is the only just system because it doesn't punish the succesfull and hardworking people. Why are you so entitled? Does it hurt you that others have more than you? Who are you to tell a company what they can and can't do?

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the problem with the assumption "all people are created equal" is that, it's definitely not true. There are all kind of people disadvantaged by birth. God is cruel; so are unempathetic people

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I think this is a strange definition of "equal opportunity." I'm not sure I understand modern society's fixiation with equality.

Opportunities will never be equal because people and circumstances are not equal. A blind man will never have the same opportunities as man who can see. Instead of advocating for equal opportunities, we should be advocating for better opportunities.

wogeibe
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I wish Peterson wouldn't associate with Shapiro.

Nowheremovies
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YouTube, please. Stop recommending videos with that Jew Shapiro. Thanks.

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