War Thunder Top Tier is Awful | Feat. F-16C

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The F-16C is quite obviously a great jet, but top tier is so not fun that I just don’t care for it. I can’t wait for the addition of AIM-120’s, surely this will fix ARB. :clueless:

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[freezedvegetal]

Can't wait for Gaijin to powercreep this powercreep plane with another powercreep plane! Truly amazing balancing from the dev team...

Also good video Mr Whale

[ErikMoroni]

The game mode is the issue, not the "point and click" thing. Let's remember Air RB was designed for WWII aircraft. They really gotta come up with a mode that reflects actual modern air combat.

[ComtrollerReviews]

Tbh gaijin needs to make air RB into something that isnt just 3 minute team deathmatch. AI and objectives should be more meaningful and we should be able to respawn in a match with line ups like ground RB.

[Volvotryggve]

Gaijin trying not to ruin the game with power creep challenge: (Impossible)

[limyarplane]

i think the issue partly is the planes that these are based off irl and the more Arcady nature of warthunder as well. Modern jet's are a ton of fun to fly in games like dcs because alot of the fun is behind technical skill and learning how to fly the aircraft effectively, but because of how warthunder is. Its oversimplified extremely complicated weapon system's to just a few button presses. Combine that with extremely small map's and a hilariously large number of fighter's in a very small area of oporation and its just.. not fun.

[absboodoo]

AIM-120: I can't wait to join in on this dumpster fire!!! *jumping up and down like it know where it is and where it isn't

[House_of_Schmidt]

The Air RB game mode at top tier is aweful. 16 vs 16 makes no sense with these jets and RB just ends up feeling like AB. They need a reduced player count for Air RB. Maybe 10 vs 10. We could also do with a separate Air RB EC mode with respawning - shoulda been added years ago. Gaijin just doesn't seem very focused on Air RB atm which is why its completely broken.

[StealthyShot]

4:58 finally someone else calling the Barak f-16 the Obama

[vizender]

The mirage 2000 imo is still the funniest jet at top tier, because you actually have to work more to get your kills. The magic 2 aren’t as maneuverable as the r73, and don’t have the range of the aim9l, so you have to think to launch them. And this is even more so true considering 4 missiles is all you get. However, the 2000 5F kinda became more point and click with the addition of the HMD, but hey, at least it’s somewhat funny while still not getting destroyed by US/USSR top dogs.
I strongly believe that 16v16 matches are the worst thing to happen to high tier jets, especially top tier, and I really hope, with the addition of fox3s, to have 8v8 max games, with larger maps. Might seem a bit more boring to your average weeaboo war thunder wallet warrior player, but for people wanting to notch and crank and have some interesting high altitude BVR duels such as those you see on DCS (the only reason I play top tier war thunder is because I can’t run DCS), it could be extremely fun to play

[GeneralLee]

You know... I can think of a plane that would have made a much better addition this update.... hmm, I wonder what it is???

[artruisjoew]

the issue with WT top tier ARB rn is maps.
the maps are WAY too small still, which means everybody lemming train into a clusterfuck.
WT need to either have EC ARB with no markers, randomize spawns (so everybody get spread out on multiple air fields dozens miles apart, squad spawn together), and make objectives spread out, and improve map features. map need more vertical features like high mountains - Caucasus, Rockies, the Himalayas or even the Ural mountains could all be great map inspirations.

[johnsheldon-ikrn]

the worst thing is that they decided to nerf the aim 9M gosh

[Ravnican]

I think the title of the video is super accurate. The playerbase was not ready for this. Just like entering into early jets, then the missile age, this is another big learning curve for the players. Unfortunately, most people still just light the burner and charge dick first at the other team. With more ARHMs coming soon, people need to learn how to properly position and defend against these new threats. But most people would rather just complain until they nerf the new gen weapons down to marginally better 9-Ls.

[maxm]

The problem is that throwing multiple planes in one map with one spawn might work in lower tiers but it does not work in higher tiers because it becomes a giant cluster fck.

[HDPew]

Totally true. I always find myself going back to props or early jets, where skill matters the most. Yes doging missiles is a skill, but way more RNG happens at top tier and i just love the dogfights and andrenalien you get form a really good dogfight where you almost dont win. IVe played this game for years and im really sad about how top tier has turned out.

[MrBboy]

Well if you don't like point and click adventures lower tiers are wide open, top tier is "reality" of modern combat and will get more crazy with AIM-120s and so on.

[ZipWafflechunks]

I feel like once the proliferation of fox-3s become a thing in WT, matches are going to play much differently, where people will actually be able to properly defend and these high-g fox-2s won't be as important at the start of the round.

[RedTail-]

"I keep the Sparrow for people who don't know not to climb at Top Tier" Very next clip you're up in the air in an SMT..

[cat-nlsv]

your editing is so good i genuinely went into the game to double check if the Barack II was actually called the Barack Obama II

[TheReaperHunter]

Like you said, it's not even really the planes fault. It's flying and performing pretty much as any jet from that era should. Dogfighting is an extinct concept today and it's all about missile performance over ranges for 20+ miles. The plane can fly like a brick but it hardly matters when it's mainly about who launches what missile first.

Akin to how they should add a "tank only" mode for ground players sick of CAS. They should add a "gun only" mode for air RB.