The Reality of Top Tier Jets... | War Thunder

How many top tier games can you play before it's stale?

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[House_of_Schmidt]

I wish we had RB EC. Top tier Air RB is kinda boring after a few matches.

[Frogg-YT]

i still dont get why people still accept sponsorships from ge for wt

[XYVTN]

you know its bad when a air RB only player switched to ground RB, because of how horrible top tier air feels. It feels more like a punishment to reach top tier in air rather than a reward.

"Cool! I have my SU-27SM after 2175495 hours of grinding!" *proceeds to eat 10+ Fox-3 and IRCCM missiles in the first match*

[chieftainmk]

I haven't even bothered to play top tier jets since they added AMRAAMs and similar missiles. I literally only use my JAS-39C for AA role in GRB

[snowdropfox]

As someone who played Top Tier almost exclusively since the Mig-15/Sabre F2 days, I can confidently say that I won't play it anymore. It's the most boring and one-dimensional gameplay ever compared to lower tiers. Point your nose at someone, turn away and spam chaff, repeat.
Even a 109 BnZ is more interesting, especially interesting to watch, than this. The only reason I'm still subscribed to Seek, is that I like their commentary. The gameplay is basically not worth watching, since literally every video is top tier jets.

[tibcsikid]

Project wingman perfectly sum up wt top tier:
"Spamraams out!"

[gnueshk]

I've gotten about 3, 500 matches of War thunder and I totally agree. War thunder TopTier Air RB has gotten very stale. As a result, I have moved to simulator to try and fix many of the problems that the game faces. For anyone that is no longer enjoying War Thunder RB, I would highly recommend trying out simulator.

[Fffffffffffffffffrfrf]

Imagine playing the same match, against the same opponents in a f16adf...with no fox3s Just Two aim7m no hmd no tws...

[MrTheWaterbear]

I strongly disagree that IR missiles have no space at top tier - it is SO EASY to nuke ground-huggers who think I fired an AMRAAM at them, when in reality I fired an all-aspect IR. So many people complain that they were multipathing the missile, lol. Get wrecked.

[Jaeger_]

We all know that the true ultimate gigachads of War Thunder play either around 6.0 or 9.0...

[guimbitencourt]

As a player that reached the top tier without having AIM-120 (I grinded USSR as first TT). I found myself very frustrated, I can got top 1 in a match but it's not that quite often. So I started to grind France and for my surprise I find a really cool spot to play, which is BR 10.0, I'm having such a good time with my Mirage IIIC, because it's a mix, we need to dogfight, we have missiles, but we need to use them carefully, not just lock radar and go eat donuts. And we can admire the beauty of jet fighters without concerns of being hit by a FOX-3. I mean I don't even have RWR and countermeasures, but if you play well you can dodge de missiles at this BR.

When I got the F-16AM I think I might have a new perspective of top tier, since I will be using one of the meta aircrafts and not the really frustrating Su-27SM.

[notnurfcreanga]

the f14 problem is just the baby version of the f15 with spamraams

[Zosterias]

Man, I can't wait for the F-18's SPAMRAAMs.

[moe-ivuq]

I think that Top Tier Air RB needs a wildly different playing system than a copy-paste from all the previous tiers.

I don't really have a name for it, but I like to call it the Bastard Son of RB Air and SB EC.

Players would be able to bring a lineup of aircraft (like in Air AB) that cost varying amounts of SP (like with RB Ground) depending on the loadout that's equipped. Players have a choice for what spawn they'd like to begin at, with there being 2 to 4 different airfields spread out evenly with some having closer spawns to bases or targets of value.

The map, to make up for the 2-4 airfields, would be significantly larger; with upwards of 150km x 150km, maybe even up to 250km. This would also increase the battle timer back to 1hr at least, maybe more. To make up for the significant size of the map, there would be functioning radar sites or even AWACS, sending periodic markers on maps of detected enemy aircraft. These markers would be smaller to aircraft that were flying lower, making them smaller (but not significantly so) to see so as to avoid the lawnmower meta. Destroying these radar sites and AWACS would decrease tickets by a little, but would make it significantly more annoying to find remaining enemy aircraft.

AI long range bombers (like B-52s, Tu-95s, nothing like supersonic ones) would take off, assisted by escort fighters and/or ECM aircraft. These long range bomber squadrons and AWACS wings would also allow for aircraft with more niche roles (like Interceptors, the Tornado ADV/F.3/F.3 Late) to shine, being able to *actually* intercept instead of flying around like glorified SL and RP targets.

Of course, with a larger map, there would also *finally* be a need for aircraft to bring more fuel and choose engagements carefully instead of flying around like UFOs on minimum fuel. If you had low fuel, you'd have to conserve throttle or fly higher to get a bigger bang for your buck.

I haven't put a significant amount of thought into this, but I still think it would be fun to see played out.

[phoenixgn]

i want RB EC, everytime that i play Sim battles i imagine how it would be a RB EC without plane markers just like sim forcing you to rely on your radar, but with RB controls...

[ivan]

The game would be ok at top tier if there was actual balancing and no "meta or bombing".

Modern technology and BR compression makes the gap of stock or non-meta planes against meta planes too far

[cleffl]

3:50 Yeah totally how a 90's missile should behave, I get that Gaijin needs to make ARH seekers that bad to fit it in warthunder environment but this is too damn hilarious.

[MiGanFox]

Love this video, in particular I love your comments about not over defending in the 1v1s. I do really enjoy that cat and mouse aspect of it. I do actually prefer the M2K and the J-10A in particular though for those jousting battles, the PL-12 and especially the MICA are so much better than the AIM-120 high off boresight that I find you can exert pressure so much better. Someone using the amraams has to expose themselves a lot more for those close range shots

[lukewhitehouse]

Giving the F-15 its historical 8 AIM-120 loadout was another egregious balancing decision akin to the KA-50 with it's 12 Vikhrs.
US teams with F-15s just clean up, nothing can challenge them for the reasons above in the video. It's only going to get worse when the F/A-18 comes in "murder hornet" configuration. Sometimes in a game balance concessions should be made.

[market_gardener.mp]

0:22 wow what i have to do on OF to get entire 6 ge