Can Piracy Cost More Than Subscriptions?

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Is it possible that Piracy can cost more than just paying for subscriptions? I guess if you're downloading ~30TB of data and keeping forever it can.

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His problem isn't pirating, it's data hoarding.

Mediiiicc
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"Running my own instance of netflix costs more than a subscription to it"

Cyranek
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This post is the real life equivalent of that "I spend $3000/month on candles. Please help me budget, my family is starving" meme.

Zxv
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"piracy is expensive"
Actually really dumb of him to generalize like that. Most people that pirate stuff, won't EVER need a $1200 with fucking 30TB of storage, to do it, they will simply download a movie/series, watch, and delete it, MOST people only ever watch something 1 or 2 times (with some exceptions for our favorites movies/shows, but still, not even remotely close to 30TB...). It makes literally no sense for him to state that piracy is expensive simply because the way he does it, is indeed expensive.
As said in the video, it is not about piracy, it's about long-term data storage, and that is INDEED expensive.
Again, the title is right "*I* probably spent more on piracy that if I just paid for content", but the statement after that is incredible dumb.

Desker_
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Maybe piracy could cost more if you buy high amounts of storage, but even if the cost was higher than subscriptions. I would still argue that piracy is worth it, considering the fact that you have more control over the content you torrent. The office might get pulled from Netflix, but it won't be pulled from your hard drive or media server.

tikoblocks
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30tb of unseeded content is the equivalent of hoarding mail. Yeah it may be important but after reading it once chances are you’re never going to touch it again

abakedpotato
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If internet goes down and we enter an apocalypse for 10 years this guy is going to be alright as far as entertainment goes xD That is assuming he stored enough food too.

theohallenius
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Damn, this guy must have the ISO of every version of every single Linux distro ever. A true archiver 🙏

bencebence
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Casual pirate here, and I can say it certainly saves me money, and ESPECIALLY convenience. At any time, I can watch the shows I want to watch, without having to make an account, log in, pay for yet another different subscription or any of that fucking shit. Same with video games too. Just got to go to my big ol games folder, click on the game I want, and if I really want to, click on every other file and folder to actively tweak, mod, or fix it!

Best/worst part, I would be more then willing to actually pay for the services that I do use to pirate from, as they actually offer a SUPERIOR service then the fucking legalese bound bullshit riddled with exclusivity deals, walled gardens, lack of actual ownership, etc.

nerdicusdorkum
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OP case is very ridiculous.
If he paid for the content, he wouldn't be able to download it and keep it this way, can't he just do the same for pirated stuff, watch it, then delete it, and maybe download it again when needed?
And, he still needs something to watch the content in, so he would still pay to maintain a computer/TV!
This is not because he pirates, it's because he is a big data hoarder.

jasdanvm
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The biggest thing for me is ownership. When I want to buy things like movies, I want to OWN them. I don't like being at the behest of the will of any company and whether they decide to renew a contract or decide "Oh! Lets invest in our own streaming service, we have a *great* catalog of content people will pay for!" My biggest thing is buying movies on Google Play, need a way to get them off somehow before Google does it for me for one reason or another.

I will gladly go out of my way to actually own my content.

Ryan
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I appreciate your videos.
The thing with the person in question is something which I totally understand.
I live in a country where everything is banned, 80% of the useful parts of the internet is blocked by the regime (even Signal, Telegram, Pinterest and ....), also international bandwidth to those parts of the internet which are not banned yet, is reduced as hell to make you use the domestic services which are a piece of crap.
I'm writing this comment using a VPN (a private VPN which I deployed because all public VPN servers get banned periodically untill they provide new servers), because YouTube is also banned here, if you didn't know. And 80% of those 20% of the unbanned part of the internet is blocked by their providers, yeah google is one of them (google tasks, YT music, Docker!, Google Dev and ....)
Fun fact: YT Music is blocked by both regime and google, so they are on the same side for us, but for different reasons.
And regardless of all the things I mentioned above, we don't have international payments here so we can not subscribe to any of those services even if we would want to.
So I have a PC with 16TB storage and about 8300 movie titles since 1918 (I don't like series much) and I'm going to buy another 16TB storage for the next decade. Many years ago I developed an app to manage my movies, then I found Plex which is a great replacement for my homegrown app.
So I totally understand why someone would have to store everything they need locally, because we don't know what would happen tomorrow to our country, they may even shutdown the entire international internet for more surveillance over citizens (they did this as a test for a week on Nov 2019 protests and killed many)
And also I can not seed anything efficiently, because all internet service providers limited their upload speeds at extreme low (100 KB) for cable and about (400 KB) for mobile 4G. This is because the regime (which is a thug regime if you didn't know) wants to prevent quick spreading of news and videos when an uprising happens. Which is actually happening right now in some parts of our country.
So this is it. And I use NewPipe as youtube client and it's awesome, just came to youtube to be able to comment on your video.
And if you wanna know, I live in Iran.

mononobius
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If it's on a hard disk I get the comfort of knowing I'll have it as long as I want. No censorship, no removal.

cd-yxnv
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His logic is flawed, he's not paying for piracy, he's paying for his obsessive need to have a local copy. You can pirate all you want with a 100gb hdd. And 45$ of power per month ? Is electricity that much more expensive in the US (edit: I do realize he mentioned not in the us, but my point still stands, just wasn't paying attention ><) ? I pay like 2$ of electricity per month I would guess to run my decked out PC 24/7. This really feels like a propaganda piece asked by a crunchyroll exec to an intern who knows about BT.

FlavorsomeMusic
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I picked up a 16TB drive for like $250, and I really underestimated how much that is, because I have downloaded so much content at this point that if the internet ceased to exist tomorrow, I would have enough fresh content for the rest of my life. I've got hundreds of anime/manga series, hundreds of books, complete ROM sets for several different retro consoles, dozens of ps2/gamecube ISOs, a local copy of wikipedia, and other miscellaneous stuff.

The best part is that I've used less than 20% of the available space in the drive, and that's with me _trying_ to fill it. It was definitely a good purchase

youreyesarebleeding
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I used to hoard a lot of scanned tabletop games stuff, after a while the lust for digital treasure turns you into a dragon. It's a lot of fun. Plus when someone on a forum asks for something and you know exactly what they want because you've got tags and folders like crazy, it's a really good feeling to upload it somewhere for that guy to grab.

Anon_Spartan
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It blows my mind that in the US where I live, I can't legally rip a blu ray THAT I OWN and make a digitized backup of it. Not for sharing, not for anything other than being able to throw it on a home server and stream it to MY other devices. I supported the company and bought the physical media, why would you block me from making a backup of something I own? If I don't actually own it then why wasn't I provided a free copy of it to watch? If you intended to tell me I don't own these things then why would I pay money to buy the media?

crzyruskie
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As someone using a macbook with under 300Gb of storage and wanting to get a 1Tb hard drive as a luxury, I can't imagine someone needing to expand a 30Tb what sounds like dedicated storage.

x_
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Honestly, I think the way is to pirate stuff from evil corporations (Netflix, Disney, Hulu...) And to support some smaller independent artists/creators using things like Patreon, Bandcamp, ko-fi, etc. I don't mind spending my money, but I'd rather know that my money is going to the creator directly instead of some huge corporation that will only pay them a cut.
(Yes I'm aware that Patreon for example takes a share of the money etc etc)

erlgr
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Man I just have to say you quickly took first place in the top five YouTube cyber channels no disrespect to the other guys and gals but you seem to get the most useful and valuable information across with minimal fluff and maximum Contant in a humble way and you’re clearly on the level so it’s immensely educational at least somebody like me, thanks!!

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