Christian or Cult: What is Seventh-Day Adventism? w/ @shamounian | Part 1

⚠️ TRIGGER WARNING ⚠️ What is Seventh-Day Adventism? What do they believe about Jesus? What about the Trinity? Who is Ellen G. White? Sam Shamoun and I discuss this and more in an intense discussion.

DISCLAIMER: Discussions ≠ Endorsements. Yes, Sam and I have theological differences. That wasn’t the point of this discussion. You are free to have your opinion on Sam’s demeanor, mine, Sam’s theology, my theology, etc. The purpose of this session was to be informational and get the word out about Seventh-Day Adventism to as many people as possible.

CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
2:49 - Myles's Relationship with Father
4:00 - Adventist Disfellowship Explained
5:45 - Adventism 101
7:54 - The Great Disappointment Explained
10:43 - Hiram Edson's Vision in Adventism
13:35 - The Prophetic Visions of Ellen White
17:09 - Adventist Present Truth Concept
18:57 - William Miller's Path to Repentance
21:27 - Introduction Recap
26:36 - SDA Fundamental Belief Overview
27:37 - Confidence in Ellen White's Writings
35:51 - Ellen White in Her Own Words
42:50 - The Inspiration of Ellen White
45:43 - Ellen White's Biblical Parity
52:17 - The Great Controversy Paradigm in SDA
58:54 - Adventist Doctrine of the Trinity
1:01:35 - Trinity History in Adventism
1:07:20 - Divine Visions and Error Correction
1:09:23 - SDA Beliefs on God and Time
1:10:15 - Judd Lake's Perspective on the Trinity
1:14:20 - Edwin Cotto's Take on the Trinity
1:17:55 - Ellen White's Stance on the Trinity
1:23:03 - J.S. Washburn and Adventism
1:27:38 - Exploring the Great Controversy Theme
1:29:20 - The Great Controversy Discussion
1:31:10 - Debating the Father-Son Hierarchy
1:33:48 - Lucifer's Exaltation Desire
1:34:34 - Debunking Jesus as Lord God Almighty
1:37:01 - Sovereignty of Jesus Questioned
1:41:19 - The Salvation Debate: Jesus and the Father
1:46:31 - The Salvation Debate: Jesus's Persuasion
1:48:23 - The Human Nature of Jesus
1:49:20 - The Possibility of Jesus Sinning
1:53:05 - The Concept of Jesus's Soul Sleep
1:55:39 - Jesus's Subordination to the Father
1:58:31 - Jesus's Divinity Renunciation
2:00:50 - Announcement of Part 2
2:03:20 - Concluding Remarks

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[dentakleen]

I was a Seventh-day Adventist and I left because I found out that most of the members in my congregation were nontrinitarian. They said it was "Catholic" and not biblical. Then I went to another congregation and noticed most of the people believed in the trinity. I then did further investigation and found out the trinity in Adventism is 3 separate Beings.

[benjaminparadise]

There is a difference between adventists and adventism. I left the organization, but for 10 years, I never knew the clear word bible existed, I never knew about Ellen White's false prophecies (including claiming that England would invade the US during the civil war), and never knew about her outrageous claims such as her comments on wearing wigs and using condiments on foods. I never knew they teach that William Miller is taught as a pioneer in their education system, I thought they were a Christian denomination that formed rejecting William Miller's "calculations". Sermons were given each week by church members, using Bible verses, and there were hymns and potluck, and maybe every few weeks a pastor would preach. But after 10 years or so, I saw the massive problems in the organization.

[ADVENTFRAUDSQUAD]

My prophecies are ALWAYS CORRECT! -actual events, as well as the timing & location of said events... are sold separately!

[umabrijmohun]

Different denominations..might have a few different veiws..but we all accept one another as brothers and sisters in One Body of Christ, but unlike Adventism who think they are superior to other believers, calling all those that worship on Sunday "they of the Beast system meanwhile they have :
False gospel
False Jesus
False atonement
False seal of God
False Atonement

[carltontv]

Miles as an EX SDA you are spot on most SDA had freemason roots and please do video SDA logo which shows a inverted Cross

[dudemanbrospence]

Dude your conversion story sounds identical to mine.
SDA Pastors kid ✅
Eastern/New age stint ✅
Radical conversion ✅
Dipped toes back in SDA ✅
Left SDA/became Christian ✅

[robertotapia]

@Answering Adventism I'm Catholic and I'm great full for the work that you're doing one of my closest friends is SDA your studies will help me be able to try to reach him and others. Keep doing what your doing GOD Bless your family and you. Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷

[christismylordandgod]

Brother in christ please put future references in the description or comments, it would help a great deal. May the peace of christ be with you 🙏🏿

[mille]

JOSEPH BATES:

“Respecting the trinity, I concluded that it was impossible for me to believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, was also the Almighty God, the Father, one and the same being. I said to my father, “If you can convince me that we are one in this sense, that you are my father, and I your son; and also that I am your father, and you my son, then I can believe in the trinity.”

(Joseph Bates, 1868,  The Autobiography Of Elder Joseph Bates,  page 204)

[Derriann]

Came through with ALL the receipts 👏🏾 Great work brother, God bless!

[davidblowe]

Ex sda listening to Miles pull sda theology apart while enjoying a glass of red 🍷 👍
Would have loved to have seen the live chat.

[dentakleen]

They are officially nontrinitarian in spite of their use of the word trinity BUT most of the members believe in the trinity while the majority of the pastors, elders, General Conference, etc know that the church is not really trinitarian and rejects the doctrine. You have to be in the church to understand. Most people will not get it. It is gaslighting.

[ADVENTFRAUDSQUAD]

Asking EVERY Adventist!

A.) Ten commandments?
B.) The whole law?
C.) Commands of Christ?
D.) Something else?

What should we do??? -nobody seems to know

[tayoadewole]

@answeringadventism obviously do not understand the SDA beliefs as you claim. What you call creed have bible references which you and your host refused to quote. Adventists are not anti-trinitarian, they believe in the triune God and there are no three gods. Stop misleading people by twisting words which you have attributed to leaders of the church. You and Sam should seek more understanding of God's word and allow God's spirit who inspired the scripture to guide you. Shalom

[estar]

Can u pls tell the name of the author of the book, 'hidden in plain sight'

[steffanmundall]

Myles please tell me where I can get my hands on “Hidden in plain sight” is there by any chance an online copy or the book must be purchased?

[primerointern]

I love the way Myles lays things out. When listening to the sda "plan of salvation" I can't help but think of the video "The God Makers" about Mormon theology. In that video is a cartoon that tells the Mormon story of God, creation, sin, "salvation" etc.

It would be great if someone would make a similar video for the sda church quoting EGW and her theology { i.e. God elevating Jesus, lucifer getting mad, lucifer saying "the law is unjust" Jesus could not see through the portal of the tomb etc.}

Laying it out and presenting it like the fable that it is using eGW quotes would be a great way to further expose the zda beliefs

[WorldTNZ]

Best interview so far. Thank you for exposing the SDA lies.

[annagudmundsen]

Sam is a wonderful brother in Christ, love hearing him tearing Islam apart almost every day. Be sure to mention to him, SDA not only disses the Holy spirit, but also replace him as the seal of God with the Sabbath.
"When Seal of God Is Refused—If the light of truth has been presented to you, revealing the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, and showing that there is no foundation in the Word of God for Sunday observance, and yet you still cling to the false sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath which God calls “My holy day, ” you receive the mark of the beast. When does this take place? When you obey the decree that commands you to cease from labor on Sunday and worship God, while you know that there is not a word in the Bible showing Sunday to be other than a common working day, you consent to receive the mark of the beast, and refuse the seal of God.—The Review and Herald, July 13, 1897.
One more
"The sign or seal of God is his Sabbath, and the seal or mark of the beast is in direct opposition to it; it is a counterfeit Sabbath on the “day of the sun.” According to Revelation 14:9-12, they who do not receive the mark of the beast keep the commandments of God; and the Sabbath is in the fourth precept; they keep the Sabbath of the Lord; they have his sign or seal. The Great Controversy (1888 ed.), p. 691.3
There are plenty more where it came from.

[miguellozano]

I would say Seventh day Adventism is not Christianity, or Judaism at that, in its systematic theology . It’s more of a prophetic movement, with its interpretations on Daniel 8;14.