Westworld Season 4 Ending Explained

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Westworld Season 4 Ending Explained. We break down Episode 8 of Westworld Season 4 and let you know what we think is happening, where it could be going with Season 5 and all the big character moments.

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Now Westworld Season 4 ends with it being revealed that Dolores was kept in her own simulation of the city. Here she recreated elements of her past and guides to help her navigate through it all and see the truth. Come the close of the entry she’s uploaded to the Sublime by Hale who was influenced by Bernard’s final message. Her she recreates Westworld from scratch in order to see if there is a different way to do things.

Now the season itself has very much been about whether the hosts are truly alive and their own form of life. However it’s also explored consciousness and whether having a duplicate of someone’s means theyre real or not. This has been seen in not only The Man In Black but also Caleb.

We saw that Caleb was truly a copy of Caleb but does this mean that he’s an imitation or an extension of him past his own death. For example if you copy someone completely, does that copy also become them or not. William too wrestles with whether he's actually William or not and it makes for a really introspective watch.

Now in Season 2 Dolores read all the data that had been gathered from the guests. This information on all those that visited Westworld meant that she could recreate whoever she chose to. In addition to this she was also uploaded to Rehoboam and this had all the information on humanity so she could actually completely replicate every human on the planet and that’s what I think this simulation will be.

It will be a complete recreation of not only Westworld but also Earth itself. Now I’d say you or I was replicated in this simulation exactly like how we were then the question arises whether that’s really us or not. Though our body wouldn’t be there the thoughts we have, behaviour patterns, memories and everything that exists in our brains would be created in a virtual way.

What does it mean to have consciousness? Is it our thoughts and feelings or is it just electrical signals that our brain interprets?

well if you can't tell the difference, does it matter?

It’s an interesting debate that could argue whether we are truly us or something more. This is also explored when Teddy tells Christina that because she thinks, she’s alive.

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This seems to be taking inspiration from the philosopher Des Carte who coined the phrase ‘I think therefore I am.’ One day he carried out a thought experiment in which he questioned whether he was dreaming and if he was how he would know it. Eventually he determined that he wouldn’t be able to tell however he realised that because he was having thoughts that meant that at least he existed whether reality was the way he perceived it or not.
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Let us know your thoughts on the finale below.

heavyspoilersclips
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This season was good until the last two episodes and they really shat the bed wrapping it up. Westworld’s biggest problem is that no one can stay dead, they always bring them back so it all seems pointless. There’s no real consequences to killing someone off anymore

bingchiling
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Idk how they make a season 5. Where this felt like the end of the show. It was such a great full circle ending. It felt like a great ending

thetruth
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After watching the finale - I sadly realized that we could have skipped the ENTIRE season 3 and just have gone straight here. Season 3 was all just religious filler. I mean I know they're following Genesis and all - but please - there are atheists out here. I also questioned small things like - how can one kill oneself without their brain. And other annoying questions never answered, but I guess we'll have to wait another 3 years to find the answers. I don't know if I'll have the free will to watch it the way the world is going right now as it is.

adler
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Finale wasn’t had good as I’d hoped. And like damn. Pretty much all the main characters are just dead and gone. And wtf wbu the man in black. How does the season 2 end credit scene fit. I hope that’s not in the sublime. I hope that in the end earth has humans that are humans living and breathing in reality. And maybe hosts idk. All I care about is my man William host and human.

robertbowser
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pretty sure that was a series finale, rushed due to cancellation i’d wager

surferboi
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It was predictable the last shot of the final episode Dolores returns to Westworld Park. The loop is already closed season 4 we felt the end of this story. Showrunners Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy are on the new Peripheral series The World of Flynne on Prime Video.

nemomarc
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Wow, what a finale. That Dolores is probably somewhere, I have already written in the comments under the reviews of previous episodes. However, I only thought about Rehoboam and not about what we finally got to see. But actually, all this was already obvious. The labyrinth, which you can see again in the structure of the tower, is of course also similar to the structure of a brain, as you already recognized in season 1 and 2. One can imagine the Tower as a giant host, in whose "brain" the pearl of Dolores was put. Likewise, the Tower represents an image of the device part with which Dolores was built, after which many other hosts followed.

I can now identify with Dolores even more than before. Actually, just about anyone can identify with this character - and I write this after it was still considered difficult in the previous episodes to know which character to connect with as a viewer.
Dolores has created a world in her mind that should be full of beauty. Isn't that all we wish for our real world? Peace, no war, no differences between rich and poor, etc.? But on this construct in our thoughts lies the reality, the real world, in which all this cannot be achieved until our death. But willy-nilly, we still have to live in this world, in which many things do not work out as one imagines. Sometimes we humans ourselves are the ones who trigger these problems and carry them on over generations / over the entire history of mankind (our evil side, in the most extreme case possibly comparable to dictators, war-mongers, etc., whose evil side has overplayed the good one [assumption of the philosopher Jean-Jaques Rousseau: "Man is good by nature"], as with Wyatt in Dolores and in Charlores, respectively). Overall, however, most people are prisoners in a world they don't really want to be in (comparable to fly-infected people). And those who can't cope with it have to seek help because of mental problems, are 'imprisoned' in institutions. Many no longer see the beauty of the world and if this is the case over a longer period of time, suicide can follow in the saddest case (triggered by the problems we have in the world ➡️ reference also to season 3: Rehoboam is like Google or Facebook, which determine our complete lives due to digitalization and know about much).

Overall, Westworld (season 4) can thus also be compared to Nick Bostrom's simulation hypothesis (source: Wikipedia: "According to the simulation hypothesis, most contemporary humans are simulations, that is, not real existing humans.").

All that which Westworld has already philosophically taken up in past seasons is virtually completed with this season.

I think it's cool that a fifth season has been announced. Still, this final episode would have been a great ending for the whole series - I probably would have liked it better. But maybe with season 5 the post-credit scene from season 2 with the MIB will finally be resolved.

On the final episode and season 4 itself:

- Westworld once again managed to keep me entertained, excited, and thinking about what I've seen until the very end. I anticipated things that were ultimately resolved in other ways and I think that's absolutely great.

- Even if one can argue about possible logic gaps in season 4 (which can be partly explained by the Reveal in the finale) or about the sometimes rather weaker action moments: The basic story, its premise and the characters have always had a higher priority in Westworld than anything else. And they managed to do that again in Season 4, in my opinion: great cast with new characters (Aurora Perrineau in particular was absolutely fantastic cast for the role of Frankie) and great stories about already established characters.

- The production value was also at a very high level. Only in part did I recognize the green screen (e.g. the view outside from the tower). But that's grumbling at a high level for a series. They delivered great show locations, I liked the clean design of rooms, the tower etc. very much. Also the change from human to hosts when the face opens (Little Frankie and Charlotte) just looks good.

- Ramin Djawadi's music was again great integrated into the world. The soundtrack wasn't just there, but underscored the moving images shown / was part of the Narrated World (to name just one of many examples: Episode 1, after the investor returns to the hover dam after the fly infestation to kill his own people on orders from the MIB: robot soundtrack in the soundtrack)

- some well done cameo appearances, also in the final episode

- Westworld is still a series where you can't understand everything until you go back and watch previous seasons. In season 4, you noticed that some references to seasons 1 and 2 have been pointed out. Even though season 3 feels rather detached from the other seasons, as mentioned above, it carries aspects that make up Westworld (but I also felt I was one of those who quite celebrated season 3 back then despite the massive change, precisely because of those aforementioned aspects transferable to our world). For me, Westworld is definitely one of my top 3 favorite series, which was confirmed again with season 4.

llstudios
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San junipero making a cameo!! I thought of that episode of Black Mirror so often during this last season.

SaltyMsMorton
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Until episode 6 season was fine, sadly the last 2 episodes were rushed and seemed that they didn't know what to do.

albertosantos
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A copy is a copy, and the notion that it doesn’t matter if you can’t tell, only applies to the observer. Sure the copy could be 100%, and even believe that it is the continuation of said consciousness, but it fundamentally isn’t. I just can’t see it any other way.

maraudershields
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Every time Paul says "theory time" it gets stranger

sainttrai
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SEASON 5 POINTLESS? At this point the show LOOPS upon itself so does it becomes pointless? Dolores is now inside the forge/sublime. That's where her game/simulation will now take place. The outside REAL world is destroyed and MOST REAL humans dead. The only game/simulation Dolores can run now is endless loops of Westworld. At best the simulated humans start to believe they are "real" and return to the REAL world; and the hosts stay in the forge/sublime believing THEY and IT is "real". Everyone is an artifical host or human now. Ultimately now it's irrelevant wether the simulated humans OR hosts gain sentience. It's a staged artifical simulation for both. It's a game that's now created it's own game; but still the same "game" where nobody is "real" and the end game is everyone believes they and their world is "real".

therealovidox
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The killing of Stubbs seems like sloppy writing/imagination and why did Frankie let Clementine kick the shite
out of her father if she had one bullet left? She should have killed Clem on fight coming together.Fight scene superfluous..

ericblair
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Lisa Joy also said that this is not the ending that team envisioned for Westworld there’s gonna be another season. This is not the ending.

fyeahitsrul
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The episode left me more confused than before episode five. It felt like they were going for its all a big simulation, and while I still feel that way(the tear in space has to be inside the sublime), they made you feel that no the real simulation began when everybody died.

MrMackievelli
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fulfilled, would welcome a s5 if not at DelTina to ride out of the sublime in dress killing William(s), but close enough ala Halores. Delores stands supreme, looking for the beauty and no violent delights. And Bernard's fight not to be forgotten. Got my big Q answered how did Teddy emerge. Am a sucker (Blade Rs, Matrix, Altered Carbon) for consciousness/human existential in sci fi. Appreciate HS's ongoing hand holding...needed great channel...As a Dad with a daughter...yes to all that, and no don't let F see you falling apart.

gregfulton
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This is like full circle already but if felt rushed anyways, not sure I want to keep watching Westworld

EOimages
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wait wait… one of the humans Delores remembers is young William when he was pure…

fromkieran
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A "clip" for Westworld S4 has to be 6 minutes long. This show has become an ourobouros

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