$200,000 Salary for New Lawyers #shorts

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Reminds me of the story of the plumber who fixes a toilet at the lawyer's home, then charges him $250 for an hour's worth of work. The lawyer pays it begrudgingly and says "I'm a lawyer and I don't even make that much." To which the plumber answers "I didn't make that much when I was a lawyer either."

justrusty
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I remember a quote - but can't remember the attribution: "Practicing law is like winning a pie eating contest - but the award is more pie."

Stormcastle
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Becoming a lawyer to get rich is like becoming an actor to get rich. Most of us don't make anywhere near that amount. Entry level salaries outside the big firms (at least in Chicago) hover around $60, 000 a year in the private sector.

adamquigley
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In the time I spent calculating this rate vs minimum wage and getting mad, Jeff Bezos made $456, 621 and didn't pay tax on it.

adriankerrison
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God, I love how much "Cravath" and "Milbank Tweed" sound like pretentious, fancy law firm names that you'd only hear in a movie.

NoriMori
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Hard work, long hours, NYC expenses, and law school debt to pay. Still a damn good salary, but not as amazing as it seems at first glance.

randalthor
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"... and I'm sure we'll see many of these people, in court!"

grambottle
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60 hours would be a dream for all the NYC lawyers I know. The reality is that they probably all work closer to 90 hours.

grizzlyWhere
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People in NYC work 60-80 weeks for minimum wage all the time. So, yes, 200-300k is a shitton of money.

GalacticPossum
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That law firm be like

Trade offer: You get 200k, I get your soul

Warm_Ice
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In a few years I’ll be working 80 hours a week (only not doing more because of legal restrictions) and making about 59k… residency is a crock.

rambam
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They aren’t “giving” you $200k, you have to EARN it by being the low man/woman on the totem pole at a massive firm that will do it’s best to put your nose to the grindstone. To those willing to take that on, I wish you the best luck.

joermnyc
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Yes, NYC is expensive, but not so expensive that 200k is not an incredibly nice pay. The median individual income in 2019 for *manhattan* (which is richer than the other boroughs) is only 51k. So saying "but NYC is expensive" is kind of a weird angle.

Yes, lawyers work hard, 60 hours a week is a lot, but plenty of people work just as much for way less pay--my mother was a nurse and worked plenty of overtime and never brought in that kind of money. So saying "but they work hard" is also kind of a weird angle.

200k is a nice pay, full stop.

edit: I live in the bay area and work in tech, and I will never not get annoyed at ppl here trying to do the same thing with tech salaries. Some people just have no idea how good they have it compared to the actual "typical" person even within their own rich city.

harktischris
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tbh, they can keep up with this rate and EVEN be capable of sleeping. As someone who sleeps total of 6-8 hours after every 7~8 days (sometimes I have to do 11 days) for the last 3 years, it's not impossible. The trick is to find how your body works. u need to figure out your metabolism, essentially. What I do, is pretty simple yet effective:

coffee + cigarette + scheduled eating + juice + water..."thought redirection"...thats it.

WHY:
"though redirection" is a fancy way of saying take a break and do something else. It's a burnout prevention, but you HAVE TO do it properly. U need a change. Watch a video, sit down, vacuum the house, etc., etc.. The point is to do something radically different than ur work or related to your work. If u have to read - listen to music, if u sit a lot - walk and so on, you get the point. By doing this, your brain gets refreshed, without you risking to lay down in silence and wake up few days later with a ton of unfinished work that would get you fired (unless self employed...and it still varies)

coffee - caffeine + sugar ofc

cigarettes - lowers blood pressure after coffee (very important so you don't get a heart attack)

water - cleaning your organism from coffee remains, especially important in later days

juice - important vitamins u need

food - nutrious, cooked, no fat or oils (or as less as possible)

SCHEDULE:
1st day : coffee every 6 hours, followed by a cigarette. eat 1 time after the first 8-12 hours

day two: same

day three: 2 meals, coffee every 4 hours, 2 cigarettes after coffee

day four: repeat + extra 250ml water 2 hours after the coffee

day five: coffee every 3 hours, 3 meals, 2 ciggies after the coffee + 500ml fresh juice mix of orange, grapefruit and lemon.

day six - repeat, but double juice, + 1 extra cigarette

day seven - repeat

ITERATIONS:
now, with coffee u can go for everything that works FOR YOU. Personally I pour about 80ml water, add 2 strong 3in1 packs of coffee and fill the rest with high percentage milk.

the meals need to be highly nutritious, but cooked with as less oil/fat as possible. My choice is rice and "pork bites" (could be called "pork cutlets"? I'm not sure for the name in English, but its essentially just pig meat cut in max 4cm diameter, without fat). U need salt, but can add hot red pepper and/or crushed black pepper.

the juice should be about 1/3 of each above and u can add everything u want really

cigarettes need to be long and slim, not fat, as slimer are more packed and burn just a bit slower - important as your blood pressure seems to fall slower and u won't have as many issues

SIDE-EFFECTS:
hallucinations
paranoia
anxiety
bladder problems
stomachache
headache
lowered focus
tired eye nerves

It sounds scary, I know, but there is a secret. What u have to do, is train your organism. start with 24h no sleep and 6 of sleep . every 2 weeks make it one day longer, and increase the sleep time with half an hour each time.
This works, because it's much slower. Normal people start getting the mental side effects in the first 3 days, and right about the end of the 5th the physical ones kick in.
However, by building up slowly, u will get to experience these way way further, and following this schedule, you will make a smooth transition with rarely any side effect showing up, let alone more than 1.
Personally, I start getting the side effects on the 7th day and physical on the 10th.

the amount of money it costs is about 600~1200 per month, depending on where u live.

weakness.detector
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I've worked 60 to 90 hours in a week, and hardly come close to 1/2 of a $60k wage...
Y'all shouldn't be complaining...
Some of us can't even afford to go to school to get a white collar job, without getting behind on bills...
Rent/Housing being way too expensive nowadays...

Gremlin
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As a NY lawyer for the past 6 years now who is drowning in law school debt because I only make a third of that “entry level” salary, I am legitimately outraged.

aceofaces
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I just graduated from law school and got word of my raise, before I even started working

aaronlawrence
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Still worth it! I've worked blue-collar, physically-intensive jobs for 60 hour weeks for $40k

LawrenciumLr
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First year teachers in LA Work 60-80 hours a week, pay comparable housing prices and get paid 55k per year. Just saying

ThisHereIsMyHandle
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Lawyer "god i'm working such long hours 60 hours a week is killing me"

Constructions workers "I only have to work 60 hours this week, does that mean I'm getting saturday off?"

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