The Failed Hero Story of Crumb | Jordan Peterson

Dr. Jordan B Peterson is a Professor of Psychology, a clinical psychologist, a public speaker and a creator of Self Authoring.

[ManOfAllCreation]

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[jrl]

Women mocked me, laughed at me, or paid no attention to me whatsoever....then, I got famous. - R. Crumb

[Aman-jorm]

*Charles crumb* : _I know what the homicidal tendencies stem from now_ .
*Z* : _You do_ ?
*Charles crumb* : _It stemmed from an excessive degree of Narcissism_ .
*Z* : _What's the connection between Narcissism and the homicidal tendencies_ ?
*Charles crumb* : _Well, when Narcissism is wounded... it wants to strike back at the person who wounded it_ .

[richardhaneberg]

I met Robert Crumb when I was about 20 and very immature. I was introduced to him by his girl friend at a party. She had shown me some of his work which, despite my immaturity, I thought was phenomenal. I was anxious to meet him but I was amazed how introverted he was. Having a conversation with him was difficult. His later success didn't surprise me.

[Macalaka]

who else is here after reading the comments on the crumb doc about people being there from the Jordan Peterson video???

[EvKrusty]

for goddsakes people, he's not saying Crumb was a rapist, or that the film depicts a rapist, he is saying that the film offers an insight into the the type of pathology commonly found in serial rapists. Big difference

[davidseriff]

They were also dealing with the effects of a cruel abusive father, it was not just their mother.

[mikejohnzon]

Crumb IS kind of a hero. He proved that even the lowest level of men can become powerful through hard work and mastery. He does harbor resentment and it shows in his work but he still triumphed over his fears. And his work proves that pain and frustration is the best fuel for success

[maryagee]

On Robert Crumb's mother: When her eldest son commits suicide, what was her response? 'How could you do this to me?!'

[thecoolstuff]

For a world-class psychologist like JP to say the film is the "best documentary" he's ever seen, I'm sure to a lot of laypeople it makes you wonder if there are more to the film than you can understand. And I think that's more than likely true when you're not a psychologist. JP said it clearly about the psychoanalytic aspect of the film "you can't see it generally unless you're in a clinical situation unless you know the details of someone's life". I see a lot of comments expressing their disappointment towards the film. Don't be so quick to judge it simply because you don't understand the psychology behind it. I hope JP could one day expand and upload his insight regarding this film especially on the "dreadful" mother and her relationships with her 3 sons. Traumatic childhood experience is often the reason people turn out "abnormal", and I would certainly like to know what happened to the Crumb kids.

[CraigTalbert]

Jordan Peterson used to be so amazing. I miss ghost version of him so much.

[katkal]

i believe the good doctor jordan peterson is referring to Maxon Crumb, Cartoonist R Crumb's brother when he is talking about studying the mind of sexual deviant and how we are held down by the past. And how a bad upbringing can damage. Watch the documentary and pay attention to the parts of his brothers, they are both fucked up in their own way but also very creative and intelligent. R Crumb who is excentric himself turns out to be the most normal of his brothers. Pay attention especially to about the last half hour or so. What i really found interesting was how the insanity of one of his brother began to show up in his work(he was also a cartoonist as a younger man), the deterioration of his mind was visible in his work.

[cleopatramoonsong]

I watched Crumb last night on Jordan Petersons reccomendation. Amazing .

[shadricklarge]

I have always wondered why I was so intrigued by this documentary, I mean I am an artist and love his art but the psychological part of the film is very interesting and to see how narcissistic behaviors play out or the tell all brothers revealing their own minds to the point of being truth tellers in their own twisted human behaviors makes it so real to me, not that I condone such behaviors but that in a sense we all have sort of dysfunction that other people don't understand and there for we hide it in a way are not truthful towards one another.

[mbcoll]

I find Crumb's high school angst and tribulations to be completely fascinating.

[lissashelest]

I loved it when the eldest brother is told that Max sits on a bed of nails daily. He doesn't have a typical or expected response like 'is he ok?' or 'maybe I should try to help?', instead he reacts with 'how big is this bed of nails?' To hell with what's going on with his sibling. He accepts and is open to the information. Amazing

[carolcheny]

The line in the movie i found interesting is Charles - who killed himself shortly after the film was shot, said narcissism is a wound and homocide is the revenge. something along that line.
Frankly I don't see much shocking about the film. perfectly understandable but probably because of my own background. in fact, i think a lot of artists are not surprised at all about that film.

[RainmanCT]

Man how did i end up here?! Very interesting stuff, I want to see more.

[TranscendianIntendor]

I told my daughter that she had a right to her secrets. To die because you allowed a lot of people to know you as pathologically unfit means that you need to exercise your right to privacy or find life unbearable. The artists will find maybe here that it is more
than they can take, to be shocking, to reveal your own tolerances which people around you in your community never even considered. It is about like you will never have friends more trustworthy than you had when you were 5 6 9 and to 12. There is a lot to youth.

[SmeeUncleJoe]

Saw it many years ago and it was a pretty riveting doc. I found it rather depressing but Peterson does get it right, indisputably on one point, at the very least, Crumb and the other characters are very frank and forthcoming. Nothing is hidden or dressed up. It's there, in our faces to deal with and worth a watch. Just don't expect it to have a happy ending.