A Tank So Bad It Had To Be Removed

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To say that the Maus heavy tank has had a tumultuous history in War Thunder would be a massive understatement. A fan favorite in the German tank tech tree, the Maus was removed a few years ago along with tanks like the Panther II and Coelian. Unlike these tanks, the Maus was not removed for being fictional. A working Maus prototype was complete. No, the Maus was removed because it was simply too hard to balance. That's what Gaijin says, at least. I personally think the Maus is fine as it is, it's just incredibly boring to play due to how slow it is.

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I do have some more traditional scripted content coming out soon, just have been a bit busy lately.

Spookston
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Every time I run into this thing in my T-10A (trying to grind out Russian ground forces for fun) and maybe it’s just me but I can’t pen them and they can’t pen me from the front so it’s honestly just becomes “who’s teammates can help them first”

F-Super
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My worst memory with maus is when they allowed players to research it for few days but made wrecks stay whole battle so there was horrendous amount of maus-es in matches to that point where maps like Poland became unplayable because of burning mauses blocking every street

michala
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"the maus cant be balanced"
*moves Leopard 1 to 7.3*

hungryhedgehog
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I used to be so afraid of meeting the Maus way back in the day, after all the talk of how stronk it was with its armour - nowadays I see a Maus and say “Oh…it’s a Maus.”

I then proceed to lob a heat shell towards it.

Watch-Mun
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I legitimately can't stand playing the Maus. It's frustrating, I feel like I'm in a store stuck behind someone walking slowly and I can't get past. However, despite all the constant uptiers, it's still one of my best stat vehicles. It's really sad that it's been taken out of the game since a lot of folks are desperate to play this iconic meme tank.

Just add it back, honestly.

OddBawZ
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The armour still works when you angle it, played it today and got a positive k/d but it was just so painfully boring because of the speed. Still could drive into the middle of a map and tank loads of hits while waiting for my teammates to kill the enemies. Killed some amx13 with the 75 HEAT at one point :P. Just dont spawn it unless the spawnpoint cost is 140/160 meaning a downtier.

chost-
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Spook: "likes light tanks"
Everyone: "Suffer!"

gnaruto
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I think my greatest achievement in this game is getting the first strike medal in this thing.

Trichobezoar_
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The thought of trying to pen a maus with the American 76 sent a shiver down my spine.

josejaimes-ramos
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It's bad till it's 15 minutes into the round, your on your second to last spawn, teams are exhausted

And it sets up shop on the cap point

mixnmatchflavourbleach
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I actually have WAAAAY too much fun playing the Maus. Yeah, it's slow and will take you forever to get to the front, but a well-played Maus will either decimate the enemy team, or be used as a shell sponge and aggro the entire enemy team allowing your team to clear them out. And if you get frustrated because you have to repair all day, just use the HEAT shell to take out tracks and cannon barrels from the enemy and force them to sit forever and repair

baizen
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I do think 7.3 is a reasonable place for it, the problem with it's current BR is that it constantly faces 8.7 MBTs that can pen it at almost any angle and which it has a hard time frontally penetrating. Most tanks in the 7.3 range can either pen it frontally or from the side. Putting it at a BR where it's armor is actually a big advantage wouldn't be a big deal because the armor is the only thing the Maus has going for it. It's gun is okay, but it has an abysmal reload and moves like an obese brick.

jackwalters
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"maus to 6.7" is legitimately the most wehraboo thing i've ever heard

szymonchlebicki
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I member my meathead slugfests against the Maus in my IS-4M when we were the only top dogs.
Good times.
Then the M103 nation attacked and the age of HEAT-FS had begun.

zomgerln
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* A tank so good it had to be removed to protect every other nation 😎

TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
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Remember Spook, don't conflate your skill with that of the playerbase. You have ten thousand hours and know the tactics and anatomy of every tank, while most players are casual and don't have the same skill level.
Personally I think the way Gaijin handled the Maus is fine. It come around every year as a super easy and forgiving "event". Anyone who wants a Maus can realistically get one and the allure of the event and its rarity brings people into the game.

RocketsQuintupled
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I will say, the M4A3 can indeed pen a maus. On a very very small part on the top that gives access to starting a fire. This requires 2 m4a3s and a very specific ledge that lets you go above the maus

warpuppythedragon
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Its kinda sad that the new players cant experience Tiger 10, 5 and Panther 2, damn those vehicles are so good, Maus is just a iconic tank, but the rest of the removed vehicles is very good, at least i like playing them much more than other stuff around 6.7, great lineup.

Rosenrot_raccoon
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I feel that these tanks should just be put outside of the "tech tree" but still be able to be researched

Swat_Dennis