What Happened to Earth and Mars? | Good, Neutral and Bad Endings (All Tomorrows Theory)

We know what happened to the Star People, but what happened to the people of Earth and Mars who the Star People left behind? Let's find out!

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[thevoidcritter]

I remember a passage in the book stating that the choice was either to have your descendants be star people or be sterilized, so I always figured that the humans and martians died out within a generation or two.

[cheatcharoninc]

it kind of breaks my heart that the rediscovery of the home planet wasn't a big deal. like hundreds and millions of history just began there and there's not even any humans

[ebervaliusahau]

I think the book suggest they was simply a swift and peaceful demographic replacement of Earthlings and Martians by the Star People, which was a part of the post-war reconstruction efforts all along. The continued existence of both races would've been seen as a hindrance for peace and progress.

[MrMrrome]

I think if any recognizable humans were left and still on earth or mars, the Qu knew exactly what they were and how they literally created the star people. They're probably a variety of different fungi colonies on earth. Fully sentient, but completely unable to communicate with each other or the outside world.

[lacintag]

Considering that there were possibly thousands of inhabited human worlds and only 12 of them have redeveloped sapience (or never lost it in the Spacers' case), it's like Earth and Mars humans either went extinct or never developed sapience after their change.

[KennyyChicago]

I like to think Earth and Mars put up a bigger fight than any other colony against the Qu. But of course that would probably just lead to a punishment even more *unpleasant* than the colonials. If that's even possible.

[marcoyado]

I just thought it was an inevitable demographic change where the star people out populated both earthers and martians. They were out competed and out performed by the star people and ultimately went extinct before the Qu arrived

[EuclidEndless]

Personally I'd like to think that despite the fact that it was mandatory to have star people or be made in fertile, there's probably still minority groups that fought against that and as you would expect, meant there is still small populations of humans and martians running around admist the star people, or just hiding in the background of it.
Most likely case is by the time the Qu showed up, they heard wind of it, and considering they are effectively one of the most violent species we can think of in our real world (humans lol), they basically just waited around the corner for the Qu, and waged an all-out war elsewhere.
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Probably created more subspecies beyond the star people with different genetic functions and designs- maybe made some cyborg star people or something, who knows; this is Humanity and Martian people were talking about here. And just based on evidence, I don't think they would be quitters over something as simple as infertility, or "terroristic insect monks" in layman's terms.

[Utylike]

Chaotic human supremacy ending: The Star people were created from a peaceful union and became less human for it. As such, when the Qu came, they lacked the strength and human ingeniousness to win a war against them. When the Qu however discovered Earth and Mars, the old humans of both worlds had already been preparing for this eventuality for centuries. In this version, both worlds unified but never quite got rid of their militaristic ideas and expansive tendencies. In a complete twist of events, after an extremely tough war against the Qu, the united forces of Humanity managed to defeat multiple Qu invasions, eventually pushing them back. In the process however, they were forced to also sacrifice many of their ideas and now the old human race is the next big threat for any sentient life in the galaxy.

[chrisloUSA]

My assumption is the Humans and Martians were already extinct by time the Qu invaded, I do wonder how much time passed between the Star People being created and the start of the war with the Qu? The book doesn’t elaborate but it must have been at least a few hundred thousand years.

[GreatGreenGoo]

I often wonder how a culture would look if it actually had millions of years of history. We can barely keep track of our own 8000+ years of history. An un-augmented (no cybernetic memory enhancements) person would not even be able to retain basic 'trivia' of history. Footnotes of millions years. Look at us today. How much of our own basic understanding of the world around us is shaped peripherally by history we know and take for granted?

[andreejagger]

I think the vast majority of both earthlings and Martians used the star peoples technology to leave and explore other parts of the universe.

[Zucca]

BtQ: *Describes the Neutral ending where everyone dies*

Me: Wait... if total, horrific, self-inflicted extinction is the *neutral* ending, then what's the *BAD* ending?!

[tommyherbertson]

Just imagine we are the descendants of those left behind humas, ... this thougth drives me crazy... the whole "all tomorrows" plot drives me kind of crazy. A masterpiece of science fiction.. or history.. who knows

[BoldOne]

Qu : *Modifying star people*
Gravital : *Genociding Post-Humans*
Humans and Martians : *Kills themselves in seperate nuclear wars because they decide when and how they die*

[DraptorRonin]

Makes me wonder, with that last Bad-Ending theory, if the Qu recognized Earth from their previous venture there (where they abducted some Therizinosaurs, modified them, and placed them on another planet, eventually becoming Panderavis).

Furthermore, and this is just a Therizinosaurus-fan boy speaking, what if by chance this sort of thing wasn't the first occurrence of some Earth-born interstellar race showing up on the Qu's radar? What if Panderavis was in the exact same boat as all the Post-Humans (pre-reemergence of sapience)?

In other words, What if Therizinosaur-people?

[grey]

As interesting as the world of All Tomorrows is the whole creation of the star people has always been a bit off. I keep thinking it was a small subset of people on Earth and Mars who would back the idea. So I can see a scenario where some Star people left the solar system and humanity as we know it continued on.

[entropic-decay]

My personal theory is that any people who were on Earth or Mars were altered by the Qu as well, and eventually got out-competed by other species already present.

[anthonyloveschickens]

I like the small flash of the colonials after you said “..unpleasant.”

[joshuaadams]

"It would've been unpleasant" *flashes picture of those poor Colonials*
Best part of the video for me haha