The Fallacy Fallacy problem - Refuting iilluminaughtii

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The internet has a problem with a lot of intellectually lazy and poorly researched takes that will attack a bad argument for X as evidence that X is wrong. This video goes over just one of many examples, focusing on iilluminaughtii's video on "The Woke Mind Virus" or "The "Woke" Joke: What the Right is Really Doing", and how it fails to even scratch the surface of what wokeness means due to it opting to just go for low hanging fruit.

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*This one can honestly be refuted mostly with pure reason
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”Just because someone trips doesn’t mean they can’t walk”

THAT is a strong quote

pinkpuff
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Refuting illuminaughtii?
This should be easy

daviddiggens
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So the fallacy fallacy is basically the equivalent of refuting somebody's argument because they made a spelling mistake.

cptndunsel
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All ships are death traps, because Titanic.

HumbleDirtMerchant
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Still remember when she called JBP a “pseudo intellectual hack”?

Oh how the tables have turned

DjDeadpig
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Im astonished she didnt sue the illuminati.

theredknight
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Ashamed to be an ex fan of hers, I stopped watching her when she "called out" the band Skillet for being Christian and having Christian values in their music, no joke.

PercydeRoloFangirl
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If you want a snappy definition of "woke", try "left-wing puritainical moralism"

userequaltoNull
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9:02 Nobody should use the term "reverse racism". It's just racism.
If you want to talk about racism against white people, you should just say "racism against white people".

porky
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"You can't define woke" is a rhetorical trick. It's not as if people are giving wildly different definitions here.
They might as be saying "You guys aren't parroting slogans like I do, so you're wrong"

carwyn
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“Define woke”

Well, you see, there was this pencil factory in Atlanta back in 1913…

josephmother
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What’s more embarrassing? Being unable to define woke in a bite sized definition? Or being unable to define woman with given plenty of time?

MarcAlcatraz
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LETS GOOOO MY FAVORITE YOUTUBER IS TALKING ABOUT MY LEAST FAVORITE!

sammiller
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Great video, dude. Another great example of the Fallacy Fallacy is Az from HeelvsBabyface's recent Starfield controversy. While Az did overeact to the pronouns, the stuff he said in his rant was fairly accurate, about how a ton of obnoxious modern politics are being shoved into everything in order to virtue signal. But a ton of people said "Oh, Az is ranting and he's talking about pronouns, therefore everything he's saying is invalid, and we can just laugh at him."

jeremyusreevu
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Matt Walsh's point was so obviously a joke to me I can't believe anyone took it seriously

ElectricKitty
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Tbh Walsh's take about the little mermaid was pretty funny, and accurate. She should be vaguely translucent, due to the apparent depth at which the mermaids live. Look at deep sea creatures; she should've looked like that

PootisPenserPow
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Is illuminaughty the reason I'm seeing more "woke is not defined, so woke doesn't exist" comments popping up now? How droll

johnwiks
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I love James Lindsay's definition of woke, which is Maoism with American qualities. It gives an immediate comparison that people aware of 20th century China will understand. Normies will just know "Oh, that sounds bad, 20th century China is scary", and more knowledgeable people will immediately draw parallels with the college-educated rainbow guard and the red guard, our new-age corporate struggle sessions, maybe parallels between Mao's 'to not have a correct political opinion is to not have a soul' and 'silence is violence'. It's functional at all levels.

technicallygood
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Something similar happens with the definition of fascism, where breadtubers can't properly identify the ideology, due not their own ideological biases muddying the waters.

justinambru
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I have a friend thats like this, he likes to handwave anything I point out as a slippery slope fallacy or a logical fallacy. And yes he's a Reddit Socialist.

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