Does ABA Harm Autistic People? - 5 Objections to ABA for Autism

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This week, we're going to talk about five objections to ABA and I have a lot of objections to ABA. So I had to condense them into one video.

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I will be removing the commenting ability of any ABA Service provider who tries to sell their services here. I've already "hidden user from channel" for several of them - You WILL NOT SELL ABA HERE. I WILL NOT PLATFORM YOUR CONTINUED ABUSE OF AUTISTIC CHILDREN!

NeurodivergentRebel
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I’m a speech-language pathologist and I work with autistic children. Some of the kids I work with have ABA therapists that come out to the school with them. I have noticed when ABA is there these children often seem more anxious and scared of messing up. They try so hard to be compliant……. it’s really sad. Your video is very informative. Thank you for speaking up for those who can’t.

holin
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It strikes me that the ABA practioners' claim that ABA has "improved" only looks at their own behaviors without considering their underlying principle. Like ABA itself, this only addresses the surface. If your principles are oppressive, it doesn't matter how kindly you carry them out.

thelonelymillennial
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This is so timely, as I'm having a series of intrusive memories I'd previously forgotten, or mislabeled, and while I never went to an ABA therapist's office (that I can remember, but I can't remember anything before 5), I definitely had ABA techniques used against me when I was younger. The even more mad part? No one ever mentioned autism to me, I was raised as a NT who was just really bad at all the expectations others had of me, and I'm just uncovering now that I'm actually autistic, not just a failure in a human costume.

canhas
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Everything she say resonates with me, they scared me saying my child will never improve. If we don’t make them do this and that. My perspective is, it’s not the ABA it’s the strict therapist. Early invention for autistic children is not that much different. I tell parents all the time, especially now that my autistic adult children are older. Do not force them to do anything take baby steps play with a toy appropriate eat healthy foods all of that takes time especially potty training never give up on them.

EvelynSierra-qi
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ABA sucks ! Period . I went to a school to take a certified course through ABA and as an adult learner I was floored. It was so awful, unrealistic and yes - abusive. Continue to shed light !!!

elizabethantoine
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I'm a BI. I honestly agree with some of your points. I have autism myself specifically aspergers but I am high-functioning. I don't like how some things are ran so I take the liberty to understand want the child wants and work with them from there. One of them is contact, I don't like being touched so I don't touch them either. I don't treat the child like a test subject, I treat them like a friend. One of the things I hate that I was told by my supervisor is not to say "Is it okay if we Apparently, we are not supposed to give the child a choice. I don't agree with that, I think they should get a choice on most things.

Most of the time, I am not recording data, I'm hanging out with them more, exploring their interest with them and encouraging them. I had one where I found out that his kid has a huge interest in coding. So I let him show me this game he like to play sometimes that is a coding game where you make an animation. I talked to him parents and told them about his coding interested and told them to encourage their son to explore that, since the kid told me he would like to be a computer coder in the future.

When it comes to "intervention" I approach it differently. An example, a kid is showing me a video but is shoving the ipad on my face. I say "Let's see the video, talk to me about it too, but first, is it okay if we don't put the ipad too close to my face?" Then explain that I don't like it and explaining personal space and saying it is okay to say "no." Obviously you want to approach this in a very nice way.

Recently one of the managers had a talk with me that he has seen a huge improvement on a client the two weeks I been with the child. He told me the the other BIs haven't been able to get him to talk more over the last 7 months they were with the client. He was surprised that it was only my first two weeks at the time. But I have something that the other BIs don't. I have autism and my 8 year old brother has autism but he is not as high-functioning as me. So I been around this everyday since I moved back with my mom when my brother turned 4. So I have experience. We don't like to be treated like test subjects. Just give us the respect, get the time to know us better, sympathize with us better, don't talk to us like a little kid if we are not a little kid. It is sad when the client and their parents like a "less experienced BI" way more then the last few BIs. His parents personally told me that. His parents told me his son likes me a lot.

redplaybuttonuser
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I had ABA until I was six and in kindergarten.

These are the things that ABA put me through and how they affect me:

- I didn’t have the ability to stand up for myself towards my mom abusing me and being bullied in school by peers and teachers

- I was afraid to socialize with other kids in a school setting because I was scared to get in trouble by the adults

- my feelings and needs were often invalidated

- it is called puppy dog training by my parents

- I was forced to be somebody I wasn’t instead of myself

- I live on my own and I’m 27 years old going on 28 and have a hard time making my own decisions a lot of the times

- I don’t know how to unlearn ABA

- I felt like I was just a mindless robot and a dog instead of a person

- my way of living was considered bad and wrong

- I suffer from CPTSD

- I was so micromanaged about that school and home that I could not really thrive properly like everybody keeps expecting me to do right away

cochiefemeralds
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I don't have experience with ABA, just that it's the one most recommended. I have to say, from what I understand, methods used during ABA. It sounds coercive and that doesn't allign with my parenting. My son is 2 and still non verbal and of course, there is this huge emphasis on language (he's in speech therapy).

I gotta say though, some behaviors do need to be corrected, and this applies to both children on the spectrum and those who are not. If they are hurting themselves (head banging, kicking people) or others, that behavior needs to be corrected. So, I agree that autism behavior as a whole doesn't need to be changed... Unless that behavior is harmful.

roar
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8:56 "and I can think of so many better things that parents could spend their money on, that would actually help their child"

Damn, can you imagine, like, $15k worth of stim toys? Per year? That's a hell of a lot of fidget spinners!

SynthApprentice
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Thank you so much for this in-depth informative video.... I recently started a job as a BT and something just felt completely off.... Starting with the intensive training. Working 8 hours a day behind a computer screen for almost three weeks was my first red flag... I just could not process and understand how this if informative and allow new people to learn the information and field...

Then I realized that of course, that is the full purpose of this. People who start a job in training go with the flow no matter what so they could get paid... But when reflecting on this on a deeper level, we would realize that this is intentional to numb the mind on incoming behavioral technicians as a form of brainwashing to see RBT and ABA as a form of doing a good deed to society ..

It wasn't until I started working with children recently that it clicked to me that my instincts were not wrong. These kids are legitimately like any kid I've met and a lot are similar to me in my childhood except they communicate with then world differently.

I notice other behavioral technicians are annoyed with clients. I notice we have to force these kids to talk or to eat foods they do not like.
It's one thing to accept a job that is malignant, but it's another thing when kids are involved... Especially when not many people there see these kids are humans. It really breaks my heart and a real eye opener.

legendsthatlast
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Im SO GLAD you are here.
We just pulled our 5 yr old out and things are much better.
🙏🕺🕺💃

itsmebub
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Docters said I'll never speak or have a normal life. I'm speaking i have a part time job that's almost full time. I have a partner I've been on dated I have freinds and I go to fun events and interact with people. And I did that all myself because special needs programs just kept telling me I was broken and wouldn't do anything for me so I just decided I was going to do it for myself.

lunawolfheart
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Hi! I’m a BCBA and I so appreciate your perspective! There is so much wrong with the ABA community, from its “founding fathers” to the for-profit business model. My intention is never about changing who they are, but by helping them build skills so that they have the best chance at a fulfilling life. I think who is creating and implementing the program has a lot to do with the quality and outcome. Just like in any other area of activity and industry in the USA. Continue speaking up!🕊️

mystikalisol
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Very important video! ABA is disgusting...

EspeonaSparkle
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I am not an autistic individual, but I am doing EVERYTHING I can to uplift and honor the experiences that autistic people have. I am a speech-language pathologist and I very ignorantly took a job at an ABA clinic. And I am leaving ASAP (may last day is tomorrow). And I wanted to add that while I cannot speak from a personal point of view, I can speak from a clinical model point of view. The clinical model of ABA is terrible and problematic. They do not require any degree (psychology or communication disorders), they do not learn about development, there is no professionalism training, no research training, they have no code of ethics, they have no scope of practice, and they DO NOT collaborate with SLPs or OTs well at all. To work one on one with kids all you have to do is have 40 hours of training. That is it. Only 40 hours to be with a child constantly. Compared to the 2-5+ years of schooling that other therapists require, it is abysmal and not ethical IMO. I cannot get out fast enough and I promise to always always advocate.

jillianmusgraves
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People with autistic loved ones ought to give this a watch from start to end! Very informative.

mightywaranvil
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I am an actually autistic adult. I am disabled. I at one point applied for a rather nice paying job working with autistic children. I had never heard of ABA therapy but that's what it was. I did all of the training and some of it felt really wrong. I was fired after a week. I probably would have quit if they hadn't fired me. Everything about it seemed wrong it reminded me of my childhood and I have c-ptsd. Shortly after I joined Facebook group that had a rules Banning discussion of ABA without a warning and had a very anti ABA stance. I looked into it. I looked into the arguments against functioning labels. I recognized that I had been very ableist and how I view myself.

I am very much an advocate for the same things you are. And no one can ever tell me ABA is okay because I have seen it. They were also not very nice to me at the place where I would have worked. I can't stand the word kiddos anymore.

KittyJellyBeanYT
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The peopIe behind ABA *reaIIy* need to watch this!!!

voiceofreason
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I currently do ABA with autistic children at my job and I agree that this is very forced for children, it’s also pretty demanding as well as we force them to say hi and bye to everyone. If I were a child in this situation I’d feel pretty uncomfortable. Even though I’ve seen that this could really help kids, I also feel that it can be harmful for them. I really liked this video a lot, I didn’t realize how damaging ABA could be until now, thanks!!

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