GPU News!!! AMD abandoning high end GPUs next gen?!?

There are tons of headlines about AMD giving up on the high end GPU segment next generation. Here's the sources and my thoughts!
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[Mako]

Jensen will get another leather jacket.

[andrewdaley]

AMD could release the mid and budget range gpu first and then release the top end cards later. Certainly a different release schedule but would enable more time for development. I feel AMD needs at least one top end card.

[chrissoclone]

The last time AMD couldn't compete on the high end and was declared dead they came out with the excellent RX480, which was one of the best bang for buck cards you could buy. My RX580 was so far the absolute best deal I ever got in 25 years of gaming GPUs, great performance somewhere between 1060 and 1070 for an insanely low price, and it's still doing well in my 2nd PC. So I'm not too worried, actually looking forward to AMD delivering some good midrange deals while nVidia admires itself in the mirror up in the clouds. I really don't care who has the performance crown with GPUs priced so high I wouldn't buy them anyway, what really matters is some good price/performance on midrange cards that most people can actually afford.

[jrminate]

Take it with a grain of salt, until you see amd announce it or when the next gen comes out. Even if amd only produces up to a Rx 8800 for example which is not considered a High end Flagship gpu, its still not all that bad. I am totally ok if amd doesn't even try to compete with the Nvidia Flagship (rtx 4090), like they did this gen. Even if they produce something just a step down that competes with the 2nd fastest Nvidia card next gen its still going to be fine in my book.

[ryogaming]

My guess is AMD will keep all the good chip for AI board (MI series) because they money is there right now

[baroncalamityplus]

Another factor might be that there is going to be a console refresh during that time frame and AMD just might not have the bandwidth to support and supply everything. Something had to go and it was probably the high end vanity market they weren't making much money on anyways.

[Viz]

Your analysis is spot on. Once you get above a certain price range, people want the best features. AMD doesn’t offer that. I don’t love less competition as a consumer, but I completely get why AMD would do this.

[johnc]

If Nvidia was able to up the MSRP of 4080 to $1200, AMD really wasn't doing anything to keep prices down or be competitive.

[stephen]

I hope AMD and intel succeed in the GPU market. Competition allows for a healthy market for consumers.

I personally not loyal to any brand and have had 3dfx, ATI, AMD and nvidia gpu over my time. This generation i went AMD mostly because of price to proformance, also to break away from proprietary features that only hurt the industry.

[dragojess]

Personally, I highly doubt it. Unless the die itself is literally not working, there's no reason not to ship it. AMD uses seperate architectures for gaming and compute so its not like they're just going to pop the dies into datacenter GPUs like Nvidia does. It would be a massive waste of money to put all that engineering work into it and then not make anything back by not selling it. I think the right thing to do is release the low end first, give some extra time to the high end to make sure it works well, then release it later. I'm sick of companies always releasing their halo product and having to wait like several months for the midrange to come out

[TinMan]

I think this is purely a financial decision. If AMD can now hyper focus on the low-mid tier and continue to offer more vram than nvidia they can start to take over that market, and the high end market is MUCH smaller.

[Taurus]

The mentioned Twitter/X channel spread leaks out before RDNA3 release, but already several rumors, which turned out to be false in the end. The most prominent example here is the story that RDNA3 has no so-called "shader perfetch". AMD itself then corrected him.

Here another Insider leak.

There has been information for a long time that AMD could combine two smaller chips into one powerful GPU instead of offering a large RDNA 4 chip. What is possible through the chiplet design. Because the change from monolithic to chiplet was not only for reasons of cost.

[TheUruse]

I'm in for this. Plus they really should ditch their XT in their name. Just make XT as the basis of the card. And they should just put the price on the lower side, so if there's high demand the price will increase instead putting it on a higher price and it doesn't sell it becomes cheaper. Just play the card right AMD.

[giff]

AMD seems to be, financially speaking, focused on the server chip market right now. Intel has owned the server market for decades and now AMD has some great options and big companies are switching over to their products. The discrete GPU market is so much smaller, especially the enthusiast level, maybe AMD just doesn't see a return at the top end of the GPU stack in the future.

[MrMattMagoo]

I'm guessing, since they don't actually have something to compete with the Nvidia xx90 series of GPU's they don't want to reference them competing against them. If they have a GPU that competes with the 5080, they'll want it to be a related model that competes with it like a 8800XT. Cause otherwise it just kinda looks a lil bad with their top of the line RX8900xtxtxtxtx not even beating Nvidia's 2nd tier. And this is coming from a 7900XTX owner.

[ifyhalo]

If it means amd is going to be aggressive in the low-mid range market i see this as an absolute win

[nick_g]

Nvidia have also experimented with mcm in their labs and they determined it wouldn’t give any advantage over monolithic. I think the next step is to use what Apple does with their “fusion” interposer where two M2 chips are seen as one. The bandwidth is extremely high. The process to do that wasn’t invented by Apple, other companies can implement it.

[anepicotter]

If this turns out to be true, I’d be happy to hear that AMD is going to be focusing on the closer to reasonable price categories

[darkkingastos]

It means they F'd up the engineering for the multi chip design.. The XTX and XT 7900 series were supposed to deliver better performance but there were flaws that also seem to have carried into the rdn4 as well...

[__-fixg]

yeah makes sense, technology hit a point with games where you cant really go up much anyway.

I dont see anyone going 8k anytime soon, i dont think that will ever be a standard or direction to target, games are already looking amazing in 2k, i can barely tell the difference between 2k and 4k...so whats the point.

I am a 6700 xt owner, planning to go 4k at end of this year or beginning of next year with a bigass oled TV and either a 6950 xt, used 3090ti (altough i rather not take the risk), or 7900 xtx. I would love to stay AMD, but we will see if the AI cores will be available on windows until then.