Deep Dive into the Kibbe Body Types | Internet Analysis

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time stamps:
0:00 - intro
1:57 - 13 body types
3:21 - shout out to Native!
4:42 - creator of the system, David Kibbe
6:21 - Kibbe-inspired interpreters (Aly Art, Merriam Style, etc)
8:27 - introducing my collaborators! (Ash, Haley, Larisa, & Maddie)
10:16 - what do you think of body typing?
12:17 - can body typing be helpful?
14:25 - how can body typing be harmful?
16:02 - first impressions of the Kibbe system?
17:45 - is this system inclusive or exclusive?
18:40 - Kibbe content mostly seems pretty white
22:38 - representing different body sizes?
25:20 - each type sounds equally appealing
26:43 - so much confusion
28:15 - any guess what type you may be?
29:10 - taking the body type test!
31:45 - hard to look at yourself objectively
33:21 - test results!
34:23 - final thoughts (so far?)
35:43 - the test can be emotionally difficult
38:21 - stay tuned for part two!!

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[tiffanyferg]

WOO! excited for you guys to watch, this video's been in the making for over a month now! don't forget to check out Ash, Haley, Maddie, and Larisa's channels! and lmk what u think about this whole body typing thing.
time stamps below:
0:00 - intro
1:57 - 13 body types
3:21 - shout out to Native!
4:42 - creator of the system, David Kibbe
6:21 - Kibbe-inspired interpreters (Aly Art, Merriam Style, etc)
8:27 - introducing my collaborators! (Ash, Haley, Larisa, & Maddie)
10:16 - what do you think of body typing?
12:17 - can body typing be helpful?
14:25 - how can body typing be harmful?
16:02 - first impressions of the Kibbe system?
17:45 - is this system inclusive or exclusive?
18:40 - Kibbe content mostly seems pretty white
22:38 - representing different body sizes?
25:20 - each type sounds equally appealing
26:43 - so much confusion
28:15 - any guess what type you may be?
29:10 - taking the body type test!
31:45 - hard to look at yourself objectively
33:21 - test results!
34:23 - final thoughts (so far?)
35:43 - the test can be emotionally difficult
38:21 - stay tuned for part two!!

[maxens_is_here]

Finally, I share something with Beyoncé. We both have bodies.

[SuperShakirawakawaka]

Tanya's comment about skin tone and body shape being compared to food is SO ACCURATE

[SarahSmith-nrzh]

Maddie's comments on how hard it is to take the test as a large person, especially when the test is asking you to consider the bones and I'm like "I CAN'T EFFING SEE MY BONES! ONLY SQUISH!" I felt those comments in a deep place.

[tiffanyyochum]

I have never found the "wear whatever you want, you'll look great in everything" mindset particularly helpful because while it can be great in certain scenarios, it doesn't show any thought or intentionality toward the person you're advising. if I was going to pay to get a makeover and the person was just like "wear what you want, you'll look great" I would want my money back. I want to know specific things about myself so that, when I do "break the rules, " I can do so in a more intentional way. The body positive movement generally does not seem to understand or respect this at times

[donnarowe]

It wasn't created by a man. He ripped off Harriet Tilden McJimsey, who created the system in the early 1970s. The so-called Kibbe test being put forth is the McJimsey quiz. She had six categories--Dramatic, Natural, Classic, Gamine, Ingenue, and Romantic. Kibbe dropped Ingenue because he thought the look inappropriate for adult women. I'm not sure why. Maybe too youthful?

John Kitchener reintroduced the Ingenue in his system and added the Angelic (commonly called Ethereal) for women with an otherworldly appearance. Kibbe put those women in Dramatic, but picture putting Galadriel into the sharp lines of a Dramatic costume. Not really going to capture her essence.

I don't know if I object to men (supposedly) creating the systems. It's my choice as to whether or not I follow them. I do object when McJimsey isn't given credit for her work. Kitchener started as a consultant for Personal Style Counselors, founded by Joan Songer, a student of Suzanne Caygill, the first to apply color theory to personal style, at least as a business. He's given credit to those who taught him. Kibbe, as far as I know, gives credit to no one but himself.

[RoastedSaltedPeanut]

Out of all the labels you can use to describe body types kibbe is the most "body positive". When using "pear, apple, hourglass" there's one type you're trying to look like. Eg if you're a pear, accentuate your bust to look like an hourglass. In kibbe you're not trying to look like some other body type, you're just taking what looks best on you. That being said I don't think one should take the kibbe bodytypes as anything more than guidelines. I learned that higher necklines look better one me (I always knew it but it just confirmed my suspicions)

[McMoldys]

As a black man, i have to redefine the “average” according to my sex and race. The bust and hip questions are difficult. For features like lips and nose the answers are significantly different due to my race. The hair question is completely out the window for me. However, I get A LOT more compliments when I dress in my flamboyant gamine lines.

[MadisynBrown]

I'm not offended by this test but it sent me in circles to the point where it wasn't even that helpful. it's cool to know I'm a romantic but I have done nothing with that information since finding out haha. at least i know me and beyonce have the same body type lol.

[sarahbethyoga]

I agree that the Kibbe system should be updated and more inclusive, and also that it can be very confusing. Definitely have your bestie help you answer the questions with you if you’re curious. I personally had a really good experience discovering kibbie, like NO WONDER curly hair or frilly clothes just didn’t do it for me. I learned that I look beat in sleek, angular styles with a defined waist and not too much pattern. Since adopting the clothing style I’ve felt a lot more confident in my body. It honestly helped me avoid comparing my body to (and buying clothes off of) the hourglass figure bodies when I shop online since I’m mostly a dramatic, I think dramatic classic?

[Super_Grover_]

As a neurodiverse autistic woman, the kibbe body type system has helped me tremendously. My mind works well with having scientific and mathematical guides and systems. The Kibbe system helps me to better understand fashion and helps me reduce clothes shopping stress. It’s helped me to love and embrace the body I have, instead of trying to fix problems or change it like other fashion advice does. It’s also helped me with choosing haircuts and glasses. I used to be more anxious and indecisive about shopping, but Kibbe helps me to narrow down my options and then from there I can choose what I like best or what’s comfortable, without compromising on a flattering style. I found the Kibbe system to be kind of confusing initially, but the more I learned the easier it became to identify each type and their differences.

[plasticfrog]

What I love about Aly Art is that she always describes all body types and features so beautifully, my confidence always goes 📈 when I watch one of her videos

[froge]

I can’t tell if his Facebook group has the same energy as a kid with a “no boys/girls allowed” sign on their door or “Just for Men AND JENNA”. Either way this man is WILD

[MaddieDragsbaek]

i'm so invested in this topic, i feel like i'm gonna be yelling about it for at least another month lmao so excited for part two!! and so excited to be apart of this series :)

[paulinap]

I love his system because he's telling you to OWN what you've got. COMPLIMENTING your natural edges and curves instead of drowning them in whatever's trendy. Typing and categorizing is such a natural things for humans to do to make sense of things.

[lilhonor]

Me trying to take this test with body dysmorphia and second guessing my appearance: *sweating intensifies*

[alexism]

The kibbe system has been a major part in my ED recovery. Nowadays it’s too often to compare your body to every woman you see online and in the media and to wonder why “trendy” clothing doesn’t look right on your frame. ***The free online test did not work for me***. If you’re someone with a distorted body image, answering highly specific questions about your form will not work. I was typed through my own research and through the reddit group (posting pics without my face and lots of blurring). I’m a soft natural but since I’ve always wanted hips and more curves I was trying so hard to be a soft dramatic. Realizing what you ACTUALLY look like is so helpful when learning how to dress for your shape.

[AshTanya]

Just wanna say it was great taking part and learning something new. Hearing everyone else's experiences/ opinions on the Kibbe system has also opened my eyes to things like height, sizing and how exclusionary it is in parts. Also everyone looks so cool and pretty omg !!! Thanks for the opportunity Tiffany, can't wait for part 2 💕

[Atroonks]

So I'm a Black woman, 26, a Romantic and I've enjoyed the Kibbe body type system. I never had much of a problem identifying body lines or bone structure, but I'm also an artist and I've spent a lot of time looking at and analyzing the human figure over years of figure drawing. I've drawn a lot of plus size models over the years and there's still a lot of body structure variation among them. Admittedly you do have to recalibrate when it comes to analyzing features through a filter of race though. Like thinking of questions more in a line of do you have full or smaller lips *for a black girl? But as a POC you kinda do that subconsciously anyway, like when you hear someone say someone like Angelina Jolie or Kylie Jenner have full lips, you know they mean full lips for a white person. I've found that the Kibbe system does work for POC, but there does need to be more examples of POC.
Merriam Style has a good video on Kibbe for Black WOC.

So the upsides of Kibbe is that it's pretty body positive and confirms things that you've might have already realized about what looks good on your body. For me being romantic, it was why scoop and v neck tops look better than crew necks, why empire waist dresses and tops rarely work well on me, that waist emphasis looks good on me and clothes with straighter silhouettes look boxy. Kibbe also helps give suggestions on clothes that you may not of thought of that would compliment your body. It also can cover things that other body type systems can lack, like why I have small hands and thin wrists and ankles like an ectomorph, but wide hips and thick thighs like an endomorph. Or why when I'm in really good shape you can hardly see any muscle definition but other girls can have defined shoulder and leg muscles even when they don't work out, its because I'm a Romantic body type.


The down side of Kibbe is that at times it can make you feel a bit like you're in a box. Especially if there's an item you really like that the system discourages you from wearing. For me it's chunky platform boots. I still wear chunky platforms combat boots but I like to look for ones with more "softer" details like faux suede detailing, a tapered ankle or ribbon laces.


This is an aside but an identifying system that I've always side eyed for being kinda Euro-centric is the Color season system because it relies so heavily on hair and eye color. The vast majority of human beings have dark hair and dark eyes. Like according to it I'd be a deep autumn. But wouldn't that also kinda mean that only White people could be Springs or Summers? Like sure there are POC with green, hazel or grey eyes but their more of a rarity, and those features are largely associated with being mixed.

[АлияХамидуллина-ыц]

When I was a teenager I disliked my body because there was only one figure type I considered beautiful- an hourglass. My body is nowhere near that type, I have wide shoulders and no curves at all. Kibbe system helped me to realize everyone is beautiful, and instead of hating yourself you can just learn the advantages of your body type and enjoy dressing up much more. However, after several years I’ve noticed the system became too strict for me. Maybe I gained some experience in dressing myself and didn’t felt I need rules for it anymore.
I think Kibbe is a good thing for people who are starting with their style. It’s convenient to have some system at the beginning, because the amount of different styles and aesthetics is overwhelming now.