These Men Are FEMINISTS But They Don't Know It Yet!

Upworthy hits the streets of New Orleans to ask men a simple question, "Would you call yourself a feminist?"

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[arrronwatts]

Back then feminist shame tactics were at a high. I would love to see the same question being put out in today's day and age, people are not scared to give opinions on it anymore. Feminism means different things to different people and it's fair to say most people find it to be bullshit

[daredevilpwn]

You can be for equal rights for men and women and NOT be a feminist. Some people do not like being confined to a particular ideology because then you will have to take on all the baggage associated with said ideology.

[konraddobson]

I wish it was, but feminism just isn't for men. If it was, there would be an equal amount of attention on the long list of serious men's issues, instead of silly things like 'manspreading' and 'fat shaming' and all that nonsense. The only seemingly valid issues women in the west seem to come up with are those that are being debunked over and over, such as the wage gap being down to systemic discrimination rather than choice, and absurdly high rape statistics such as the 1 in 5 which has now also been disproven. Wheras men's issues, like the following, are barely even worth a mention. Which is why we need a movement that actually cares about men and boys, rather than always painting themselves as the only victims in society:

- Men are overrepresented in all the physically demanding & outdoors 
jobs, accounting for men representing over 96% of the serious workplaces 
injuries and fatalities. Where's the equal representation of women in 
those jobs?

- Men serve 65% longer jail time for the exact same crime as a woman. And 
women are twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted. This 
gender gap is about six times larger than the racial disparity. The 
biggest disparity being between black men and white women.

- Boys are doing worse than ever in school due to an educational system 
that’s stacked against them. They are currently outperformed by women in 
nearly évery area, And college enrolment rates for men are down to 35-
40%. If it happened to women, everyone would be up in arms demanding 
reforms.

- Women are responsible for half the domestic violence in relationships 
in which both partners are violent, and 70% of the violence in 
relationships in which only one partner is violent.
Mothers are also responsible for up to 45% of child killings, more than 
any other group. And yet the media only ever talks about male abusers and 
female victims. Hotlines/shelters also focus exclusively on women. And 
thanks to the ‘predominant aggressor’ law, men are arrested by default on 
a DV call.

- For 80 years rape was defined as ‘the carnal knowlegde of a woman 
against her will’ making it impossible for men to be seen as victims and 
women as perpetrators. even now, it revolves entirely around penetration 
of the victim, which still doesn’t allow for female perpetrators. The CDC 
did a study and made it’s own category called ‘made to penetrate’, which 
showed men reported being ‘made to penetrate’ just as much as women 
reported being raped. In any sane world, rape should be defined as gender 
neutral. (and schools should teach that an erection is not always 
voluntary, and not a sign of consent)

- The current lowest estimate of false rape accusations against men lies 
around 25 to 26 percent. Another peer reviewed study estimates 41% of all 
rape accusations being false. So in other words, anywhere between 25% and 
41% of all rape accusations are false, which seems to merrit proper 
questioning of any rape accusation, and holding on firmly to due process.

- Men die 5-7 years earlier than women, but women‘s health get’s four 
times more funding.

- Men commit suicide at four times the rates of women. Up to eight times 
after divorce. Men are almost 80% of suicide victims.

- Men are overwhelmingly more likely to be victims of homicide by both 
men and women, and yet the focus always is on female victims.

- 62% of the homeless in the US are male.

- Boys make up 50 percent of the sex trafficked victims in the U.S and 
most of the world. Yet the focus is always entirely on girls.

- Men have zero reproductive rights

- Paternity fraud is rampant in the US.  In as many as 30% of cases,  
fathers are being forced to pay child support for children who are not 
theirs.

- Women get child custody in about 84% of the cases.

- Girls are protected under law from circumcision, boys are not. (his 
body, not his choice) There are no valid health reasons to justify 
permanently mutilating an infant without anesthesia (and studies suggest,  
permanently traumatize) that regular bathing practises won't also remedy. 
And given that infants aren't sexually active, there's no justification 
for not giving a young adult that choice when he's actually reached an 
age where it might potentially be relevant.

- Selective service is required only of men, and participation is tied 
directly to voting rights. Women have no such demand, associated with 
voting rights or otherwise.

- In every serious study, the wage gap has been shown to not be systemic 
discrimination, but down to the choices of women. The wage gap comparison 
fails to take into account critical factors like education, career,  
specialized fields, parttime/fulltime, maternity leave, hours worked,  
etc. When a man and a woman make the exact same choices, the wage gap 
disappears. And yet it's maintained as a desperate attempt to prove men 
are oppressive.

Women aren't paid less for the same job. As an average women are paid 
less than men, but that's a meaningless comparison unless you account for 
all contributing factors. Otherwise it's as useless as taking an average 
of the entire populations income and saying that average is what each 
person makes, ignoring the different classes ánd the massive difference 
between the 1% and the rest of us.

[frecklefingers]

I wonder if these guys would still call themselves feminists if they knew about toxic masculinity, rape culture, patriarchal oppression and other feminist beliefs.

[grahammikkelson]

Why would anyone support a movement that hates them?

[Tridnt]

Feminists want 3 things
1. The power of a man
2. The privilege of a woman
3. The Responsibility of a child.

[KyleHong]

One word... Egalitarian. Look it up people.

[LaughingMan]

Do you consider yourself left-leaning or liberal? ''Yes''. Well then you're a Democrat! ''But I disagree with their policies, and I am not a member of the party'' So you aren't a liberal then? ''No, I am bu-'' WELL THEN YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT.

That's this video in a nutshell.

[TheBgoz]

I believe in equal rights - that's why I'm an egalitarian.

[laustcawz]

In the mid-2010s,
a feminist filmmaker
named Cassie Jaye decided
to make a film that she believed
would expose the "men's movement"
as misogynist fraud.

In the process of making the film,
she discovered she'd made
a lot of misguided, mistaken
assumptions & generalizations.
The resulting film is called
"The Red Pill"; it's been intensely
protested by feminists who
haven't seen it & refuse to see it.
Cassie Jaye's
final statement in the film:
"I no longer call myself a feminist."

Not covered in the film:

"Why Men Don't Iron"
by Anne & Bill Moir,
well worth reading.

Also--youtube videos
by Christy O Misty & ShieldWife.

[mcmangoofficial]

This should be called "The Brainwashing of reasonable men.".

[ultimatefriedchicken]

My definition of Feminist: a group of angry women.

[Lukeiru]

Nope. The term itself does not imply equality. Besides pure equality is not possible anyway because men and women are naturally different. Logic is a hell of a drug.

[elijahg]

That's funny. I would define feminism as the philosophy or ideology of being feminine or female, because English and root words. I find it rather strange to redefine the word to mean "equality for both genders." We also have words to describe people who fight for gender equality: gender egalitarians. No redefining necessary.

But, I'm off to start blackism, it's my new movement for racial equality. Your either blackist or racist.

[nalimflor]

There should be no laws against equality.
Granted, there should be no laws for equality either.

[donkeydog]

egalitarian is what I would consider myself.

[moedog]

sorry feminist is only for women for equal right but yet you don't see them making sure women do the time as men for the same crime, you don't see them anywhere when men are rape or discriminated against, and yes it happens a lot more then you think, where are the feminist when men get screwed by courts/family courts just people there men so the not recognize as a caregiver to there kids, where are feminist when men get screwed over child support payment who only see there kids 4 days a month and that only if he pays his ex money, where feminist when women make more money then men metropolitan area across the us, they only claim men make more then women with fake stats, but are no where to be see when it does happen, i could keep going on but i made my point, most feminist are bad people, there a cult, i'm a humanist, equality for all, not for a group, the truth is the truth, it is what it is etc etc etc,  plus this video you can tell it's set up, because there no argument of any kind, it's only people who agree pretty much.

[zxzv]

If it's for the equality of both genders then why does it start with a female prefix ? also I'm shocked the comments are not blocked.

[yadhukrishnan]

Feminism doesn't have monopoly on equality of sexes


Why don't people understand it, there are other organisations who work for equality of sexes.

Why do every one think anyone who is a feminist can't talk about equality 🥺🥺🥺 that's just feels so ignorant to other organisations working for the same


For a fact, a man who doesn't identify himself as a feminist isn't a feminist and believe me they know it ❤️

[bxyify]

If feminism is about equality for everyone, because the dictionary says so, I think the democratic people's republic of Korea is democratic and supports its people, right? Who cares for what's actually done under a name when you can have a nice self-given name?

Also I call bullshit on that one, because it's a fake interview that has been heavily edited.