Can You PROVE the Marian Dogmas Using the Bible? (w/ William Albrecht and Fr. Christiaan Kappes)

Few things divide Protestants and Catholics more than the role of Mary. In this clip, I ask two Catholic experts on Mary where you can find the Marian dogmas just using the Bible.

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[annmary]

I had struggled with Marian dogmas most part of my life, but the more I got closer to the Lord, I started going to mass daily, confessing more frequently and praying more fervently.... somewhere along the way, the Lord helped me overcome my scepticism about his mother...It was his grace and I am soo thankful to the Lord for Mary, my mother❤️

[bestpossibleworld]

Even as an Evangelical Protestant I noticed some very striking things going on in Luke 1. First, Elizabeth and Zechariah are reported to be "blameless before the Lord." This seems out of synch with Protestant theology. How could it be that two individuals--before Christ was born--were blameless to God?

Then Luke tells us that John the Baptist was "full of the Holy Spirit" in the womb. That seems very puzzling. Again, how can this be so?

The whole narrative thrust of the passage seems to be building to Mary and the annunciation with miraculous things happening along the way.

[jeremiahong]

Catholics honour Mother Mary because
1. She is the Mother of Jesus, our Lord and deserves our respect.

2. Her role in our salvation is foretold in Genesis 3:15 when God told the Devil

And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."

She is the only human being whom God has chosen for His plan to save the fallen human race - Jesus has to be born as a Man to have a lasting binding New Covenant with God as all other Covenants were broken. To be born as a man, Jesus needs to be born of a woman. Mary is obedient to God and said yes. She didn't ask for God's plan. I would and how shall my life be impacted. Who will take care of me when I grow old. Mary trusted God but a sword pierced her heart Luke 2:35 when Jesus was crucified. She gave Jesus his human DNA. So whilst Jesus did the saving, Mary was instrumental in out salvation. If Mary didn't said yes, and some other woman did, then we will honour this other woman none the lesser.

3. As Jesus is the King of Kings, Mother Mary is the Queen Mother. Just as Bathsheba interceded for the king's subjects in 1 Kings 2:19
When Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, the king stood up to meet her, bowed down to her and sat down on his throne. He had a throne brought for the king's mother, and she sat down at his right hand.

Mother Mary Mary intercedes for all of us. Reference the Wedding at CanaJohn 2 : 1 to 12 when Christ performed His first miracle, even though He initially said it wasnt His time yet. Mother Mary didn't tell Jesus what to do but directs the servants to Jesus, just as she directs us now to Jesus. The focus and glory is always in Jesus. Intercession proves that the final decision and call still lies with God and Mary is not a deity.

4. God killed Uzzah in 2 Sam 6:6 to 7 for touching the Ark of the Old Covenant :
When they came to the threshing floor of Nakon, Uzzah reached out and took hold of the ark of God, because the oxen stumbled.  The Lord’s anger burned against Uzzah because of his irreverent act; therefore God struck him down,  and he died there beside the ark of God.

Despite doing a good deed by stabilising a falling Ark, Uzzah was deemed unworthy and to have defile the Ark.

The Ark of the old Covenant carried the Word of God in stone. Mother Mary carried the Word of God in flesh. She is thus sinless as she had to carried the Living Word of God in her womb for 9 months. Uzzah was struck dead by a mere touch. What's more 9 months of pregnancy? Thus we honour Mother Mary for carrying the Living Word of God. The sacredness and holiness of the Old Ark was evident by Uzzah's slaying, what's more the New Ark which is carrying Jesus.

5. Jesus the King of Kings bestowed Queenship on His mother Rev 12 :1
A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

This woman is Mary because she is in heaven where God is. The only human being God will allow Queenship in heaven is Jesus's mother - the Queen Mother of the King of Kings. This woman is not the Church as some Protestants claim because in subsequent verses.Rev 12 : 2 to 5 this woman gave birth to a son which will rule all nations and whom the devil wanted to harm but couldn't. The only human that can stand up to the devil is Jesus.

REV 12 : 2 to 5
 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne

6. We honour Mother Mary because we are grateful to her for saying Yes to God, when she was still an unmarried woman but had to bear Jesus, thereby being instrumental in the human race's salvation.

7. We honour Mother Mary because she was obedient to God and is our model of ideal discipleship. She didn't ask for God's detail operation plan, what's going to happen to her when she is found pregnant in old conservative Jewish society, how to answer to Joseph when he found out she is pregnant before their marriage, how is Mary going to live on financially if Joseph divorce her, what role is her son going to undertake etc. Nothing. No details needed. No assurances needed. Just a simple yes to God. And God is pleased with faithful disciples just as He is pleased with Abraham for his faithfulness.

For these reasons, Mother Mary deserves our honour - just as how the Early Church honours her for 1500 years till the Reformation. The Orthodox Christians who broke away from the Catholic Church honours Mother Mary. Martin Luther, the Father of the Protestant Reformation loves Mother Mary, honours her and prays the rosary.

The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart. (Sermon, September 1,  1522).
[She is the] highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after Christ. ..She is nobility, wisdom, and holiness personified. We can never honor her enough. Still honor and praise must be given to her in such a way as to injure neither Christ nor the Scriptures. (Sermon, Christmas, 1531).
No woman is like you. You are more than Eve or Sarah, blessed above all nobility, wisdom, and sanctity. (Sermon, Feast of the Visitation. 1537).
One should honor Mary as she herself wished and as she expressed it in the Magnificat. She praised God for his deeds. How then can we praise her? The true honor of Mary is the honor of God, the praise of God's grace.. .Mary is nothing for the sake of herself, but for the sake of Christ...Mary does not wish that we come to her, but through her to God. (Explanation of the Magnificat, 1521).

Luther goes even further, and gives the Blessed Virgin the exalted position of "Spiritual Mother" for Christians, much the same as in Catholic piety: 

It is the consolation and the superabundant goodness of God, that man is able to exult in such a treasure. Mary is his true Mother, Christ is his brother. God is his father. (Sermon. Christmas, 1522) 
Mary is the Mother of Jesus and the Mother of all of us even though it was Christ alone who reposed on her knees...If he is ours, we ought to be in his situation; there where he is, we ought also to be and all that he has ought to be ours, and his mother is also our mother. (Sermon, Christmas, 1529).

Catholics honour Mother Mary but we believed that Christ is still the only mediator with God. Christ and Christ alone.

[josephjude]

I think it's the wrong question. The Bible is not like a Qur'an. It's the Church of the Living God the pillar and ground of the truth.

[lupusdivinorum]

Some icons on the shelf, well done, brother!

[edwardhall]

Another excellent discussion! I'm an Orthodox catechumen reading the Orthodox Study Bible, in which the Old Testament is taken from the St. Athanasius Academy Septuagint, Psalm 131:8 (Ps. 132:8 in Masoretic text-based versions), and it reads: "Arise, O Lord, into Your rest, You and the ark of Your holiness." As a lifelong Protestant (66 years!) coming into the Orthodox Church, I am being daily blessed by the ever virgin Mother of our God. I was raised to greatly respect the virgin Mary, but unfortunately did not receive true teaching about her and really feel the cavalier approach toward the blessed Theotokos is shameful. How must our Lord Jesus Christ feel about us sinners casually treating His human mother as if she was really just an average mother. She gave birth to God the Word and I am now learning to truly love and appreciate her! She is indeed the Champion Leader of our faith!!!

[TheT]

Catholic by tradition and faith❤️ Love my espiritual mother Mary🙏 at the end of the day you believe or you don't, some people are just not open and need everything to be with details in the bible. I my self not very intelectual in theology and all that stuff, but I believe in God, the church and my blessed mother🙏📿 also love praying the rosary.

[marcellferdinand]

The scripture came from the church, not the church from the scripture

[adamsmith]

Paul writes 13 books of theology and never mentions a role for Mary in our salvation.

[GratiaPrima_]

This was great! Genuinely learned a thing or two ☺️. I’ll also add, if it’s true that Mary was conceived without original sin and stayed faithful, and you also believe “for by one man sin entered the world, and death by sin” then there would be no need for Mary to die. Ergo, assumption (not ascension of her own power, though).

[lishmahlishmah]

_“Tail-foremost arguments”_
😇
"What is any man who has been in the real outer world, for instance, to make of the everlasting cry that Catholic traditions are condemned by the Bible? It indicates a jumble of topsy-turvy tests and tail-foremost arguments, of which I never could at any time see the sense.
The ordinary sensible sceptic or pagan is standing in the street (in the supreme character of the man in the street) and he sees a procession go by of the priests of some strange cult, carrying their object of worship under a canopy, some of them wearing high head-dresses and carrying symbolical staffs, others carrying scrolls and sacred records, others carrying sacred images and lighted candles before them, others sacred relics in caskets or cases, and so on. I can understand the spectator saying, “This is all hocus-pocus”;
I can even understand him, in moments of irritation, breaking up the procession, throwing down the images, tearing up the scrolls, dancing on the priests and anything else that might express that general view.
I can understand his saying, “Your croziers are bosh, your candles are bosh, your statues and scrolls and relics and all the rest of it are bosh.”
But in what conceivable frame of mind does he rush in to select one particular scroll of the scriptures of this one particular group (a scroll which had always belonged to them and been a part of their hocus-pocus, if it was hocus-pocus);
why in the world should the man in the street say that one particular scroll was not bosh, but was the one and only truth by which all the other things were to be condemned? 
Why should it not be as superstitious to worship the scrolls as the statues, of that one particular procession?
Why should it not be as reasonable to preserve the statues as the scrolls, by the tenets of that particular creed?
To say to the priests, “Your statues and scrolls are condemned by our common sense, ” is sensible.
To say, “Your statues are condemned by your scrolls, and we are going to worship one part of your procession and wreck the rest, ” is not sensible from any standpoint, least of all that of the man in the street."

G.K. Chesterton
– The Catholic Church and Conversion (1926)

[lishmahlishmah]

1) Can you PROVE (all) the "Bible Dogmas" using the Bible?

2) Can you PROVE *the Bible* is a Dogma by using... What?
What do you use to prove that the Bible is the "true book" of Christian people?

3) Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible should include all those books?
(I mean: number and titles of the sacred Books. How many books AND which books?)

[eddiy]

Anyone that claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ and disrespects his mother gets a side-eye from me.

[merynco]

Revelation 12:1
Read about how Juan Diego described Mary.

[Larry_Apodaca]

Great content. Thank you for your authentically gentle spirit, open mind, and heart for God young man. As a practicing catholic I always enjoy your videos.

Marian dogmas and traditions aside I thank Abba for all those who keep me pointed toward and lifted up to Him.

I walk in gratitude for all our intercessors and advocates from our Lord, His most Holy Spirit, our blessed mother, the saints and my brothers and sisters on earth and in heaven. God knows I need all the help I can get, lol.

Peace, Joy but most of all Love in the Name of Christ!

[garyworth]

1. Let's bear in mind that in Luke, at the Annunciation, Gabriel begins by saying, "Hail, full of grace....the Lord is with you....blessed are you among This is scripture, and it is also the Hail Mary prayer. So, those who subscribe to sola scriptura should be saying the Hail Mary prayer, like, routinely.
2. Where would we all be if Mary, upon seeing Gabriel, was scared, fled, yelling "Begone! Evil spirit! Away!" Well, we'd really be up the creek, wouldn't we?
3. So, it is obvious that our salvation began with the Hail Mary, and is integral to Mary and the response of her free will to God.
Given all this, why doesn't all Christendom revere Mary, and not just Catholics? Not to mention the objective events of Fatima, Lourdes, Guadeloupe. Seems fairly obvious to thinking

[johnnyd]

Eastern Orthodox Church does NOT need to prove anything to anyone. It is Church's way or highway. Simple.

[ertlk]

So many things can be said here: without a written and defined New Testament (NT) in the early centuries of the Church, the early Church Fathers (Ignatius, Irenaus, Origen, Ambrose, Augustine, to name a few) looked to the Old Testament (OT) and saw how the "NT lies hidden in the OT and the OT is made manifest in the NT" through the life of Christ. As Jesus said: " I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill the Law." Mt 5:17, and Luke 24: Jesus opened their minds to the OT (Moses, Prophets and Psalms) and how the OT Scriptures are fulfilled in him...Paul records that Jesus is a new Adam (Romans 5:14, 1 Cor. 15:45) If there is a new Adam, there should also be a new Eve and a new Creation (Gen1-2/John1-2). Mary is the new Eve, new Ark of the Covenant (Luke 1-2, 2nd Samuel 6, Rev 11:19-12), the new Queen Mother (I kings 2, Jeramiah 13:18, 2 Chron. 15:16, the queen mother of the King of the Jews, John 19:19, John 19: 26-27, Rev 12:1; Mary the Queen Mother of the King of the Jews) of the Davidic King; Jesus (John 19:26, Rev 12:17). Mary is Mother of God: according to the flesh: not mother of the Trinity, but mother of the 2nd person of the Trinity, who became man (a divine person), born of a woman. Mary is the Immaculate Conception: saved before she fell, by her divine son who created her: the only son who was able to create his mother. Ever-Virgin: The virgin will conceive AND bear a son: Emmanuel; God with us (Is: 7:14/MT : 1:23). The OT holds the keys to unlock the mysteries of the NT...we have to be attentive to the Written Word of God to see how it applies to the Eternal and Incarnate Word of God: Jesus, the Christ

[brucebarber]

Would Ignatius and Irenaeus speak of Mary as a virgin in many of their letters if she bore other children?

[elenihelenmelb]

Another prophet confirms Virgin Mary's perpetual virginity, as he says:
“When he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looked towards the east,
it was shut.
Then the Lord said to me:
This gate shall be shut,
10
it shall not be opened,
and no man shall pass through it, because the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it,
therefore it shall be shut. It is for the prince;
the prince himself shall sit in it...”
This sealed eastern gate is a figure of Blessed Theotokos (Virgin Mary) perpetual virginity.
For the Lord alone entered her womb, and this gate
was never opened to another; its seals were not broken.
In this effect the Coptic Church sings the following hymn: “Ezekiel witnessed and told us:
I have seen an eastern gate.
The Lord, the Saviour entered it,
(2) and it remains shut as it was before”.
EZEKIEL 44:1-3
Early Apocryphal Documents
There are three early apocryphal documents, of the second century, affirming Blessed Evervirgin Mary’s perpetual virginity:
1. In “the Ascension of Isaiah” we read that, “her womb
(1) was found the same as before she had conceived”.
2. According to the “Odes of Solomon”, she travailed and
(2) brought forth a son without incurring pain.
3. The “protoevangelium of James” relates that a woman
called Salome “made trial of Blessed Virgin Mary’s virginity soon
(3) after Jesus’ birth”.