RETRIBUTION PALADIN REWORK - DONT PANIC DAMAGE TUNING IS HERE

This week in the ptr DAMAGE TUNING IS HERE it was to be expected that they nerf some of our output in the ptr it was just too strong, i say dont panic
the rework did acomplish its goal of improving our rotation and making us tankier while at the same time removing button bloat, i predict we will have atleast one more numbers tuning before we get a live candidate.

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[Sigxy]

So I think most paladins agreed that they did too much damage before. The problem I feel (and judging by different forums, other people feel too) is that the update earlier this week didn't just tune down numbers, but did some changes that didn't feel needed. For example, BoJ either having 2 charges or giving 2 HoPo on the same node doesn't feel great. When we had both, it felt super smooth. At the moment the 2 charges over 2 HoPo feels more like a trap talent. And it was nice to have a talent that could change it's damage from physical to holy (and before that we could make it either Holystrike or Radiant, can't remember which).

The biggest sin in my opinion is JV getting nerfed that hard. Yes, 100% of damage dealt to heal you was way too much - but doing a simple 6% max HP heal is so boring and weak. It should've absolutely have stuck to healing you for damage dealt (making it more fun when you have wings or when they are stunned) - but at a reduced number (especially since they nerfed the bonus damage on stunned targets - and the fact you can't increase the reach of it with talents, which you can with Final Verdict.)

We had the talent since Legion. First patch it felt great, then they nerfed it to the point nobody wanted it - and then in Dragonflight (3 expansions later) it became useful again and now, once again, it seems like a dead talent. :<

[brenomorais]

Press F for mobility, we continue with the wheelchair

[Robinb]

I was lead to believe Retribution was gonna reach the top of the DPS-ranks seeing the damage it did when the rework first touched the PTR, now i feel more robbed. I had hopes that maybe for just ONE patch Retribution was going to be a spec people wanted in their group

[jotasemanyszyn]

Ty for this updates, bro. Its nice to listen your opinion, a main pala. Keep doing it, u r great!

[danielaltman]

They gutted BoJ. First starting out they made BoJ benefit from mastery, then nerfed mastery to not make it too OP, then nerfed BoJ because it hit too hard and then made it not benefit from mastery anymore. We went full circle with an overall nerf. Plus they have done nothing for our mobility, taking horse off GCD doesn't help when I use both charges during a fight for mechanics I still have to rely on outside help to get anywhere fast for the next 30 seconds.

[andreasdelsing]

So where is the damn mobility package we were promised ?

[thundergodd]

I'm not sure there will be any more tuning since the patch will drop on March 21, which is right around the corner. Although I am not panicking (returning Ret player after a few years) Blizzard did seem to somewhat over-nerf us, especially Vanguard of Justice. I honestly hope this will not be the case. Anyway, thanks for the video and I previously subbed. 🙂

[Frozenbozo]

Really hoping they implement the heroic leap for pally

[cbak]

This is where I come for the Ret updates. So thank you for that.

[tinkerfailurecristianmaria]

Dmg seems to be tuned down to normal, freedom can be dispelled now so say hello to 1 second normal movement speed every 19 seconds and less mobility than before, yea it looks "promising", oh and 25% dmg for vanguard of justice when a holy power is worth 33% sounds like a self nerf if you pick it= better to just use 3 holy power hitting more often/more chance to crit...

[Dovahkiin]

Well, not gonna lie. This kinda sucks, what if ret becomes meta? When was the last time it happened? Did it ever happen actually? Anyway. Nerfing damage makes sense so its no the only DPS choice in the game but, where’s the mobility? And doesn’t seem like rotation its gonna change. We’re probably ending up having the same rotational buttons -Seraphin. 👎🏻

[Phantom_Anthem]

These nerfs ain’t even that bad. People acting like ret just got gutted lol

[IamMaximumFury]

Wait they reverted the 1% heal on Crusader Strike back to 2%? If so, things have changed since I was on the PTR just a day or two ago, because it was still 1%. Great change!

[robusmc]

I love sanctified plates, there are so many good choices, I'm not worried about turning, I just don't want to loose anything like at the beginning of the expansion, we got cool new stuff then lost it, super excited 😀

[Freedomexx]

Actually I thought after all those promises, paladin will be able to compete with classes such as fury or arms war, havoc etc. with all that utility and mobility they promised. Seems like we will be competing our dps with tanks while still being the wheelchair class. Maybe they shouldve keep the paladin at the state he is now, while its at least somehow playable and dont fuck it up even more.

[Titan.Fox]

Dam I I was hoping to come to the game and play my ret pally again but to hear we're still a wheel chair class, yea ill just figure out something, might just finally say fuck it and be a warlock sense this class always have a two of their specs always viable.

[hhhgggds]

So what bloat did they fix? If ret is still using crusader strikes, judge and blade its still the same? Only thing i see is that it lost cool animation procs of zeal and seraphim while still being bloated. Building only with judge and blade seemed cool but if templar strikes are much better than crusader auto then bloat is still here...

[ivannikolic]

If it doesnt get nerfed 5 times and is not op broken then it hasnt been reworked at all. Not sure how many class reworks you had in your wow lifetime sir but for me this is hotfix not rework. We need more mobility and more dmg. Gap closer like leap or blink or flash is a must.

[sotka]

What do u think about main stats maybe in 10.0.7 vers - haste - crit?

[edwardhatfield]

Pvp specific survivability nerfs already happened.